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    open mind,

    Go 'head throw dem bows, f#ck it, break a bottle but pleas keep ya heads cool.<O</O
    I do not know mister Niewiarowicz nor had any dealing with him and I certainly don’t want to be the devils advocate, but ya should realise that there can be a explanation in this matter.<O</O
    Unfortunately there is no rational thinking and the thread becomes “soaked” with bitterness, but pleas keep it with the facts and don’t drag along people in it that has probably nothing to do with it.<O</O
    I’m not “blind” but also keep an open mind in this matter, there can well be a explanation for all this.<O</O
    Fact is that a helmet sold on a show pops up on mister Niewiarowicz website with a replaced liner, pure destruction of an authentic item, no question about that, but I see no proof of that being done by mister Niewiarowicz him self.<O</O
    Perhaps busy sorting things out for him self, but unfortunately his shortcoming till now in that does not improves this whole situation.<O</O
    In the sadly event that this all reveals it self like its shown, that would be off course a very sad day for all those involved.<O</O
    In that case we unfortunately must realise that if we should “crucify” al those who sometimes “adjust” items, we would be out of crosses very soon.<O</O</O

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      Originally posted by Ostfries View Post
      Go 'head throw dem bows, f#ck it, break a bottle but pleas keep ya heads cool.<O</O
      I do not know mister Niewiarowicz nor had any dealing with him and I certainly don’t want to be the devils advocate, but ya should realise that there can be a explanation in this matter.<O</O
      Unfortunately there is no rational thinking and the thread becomes “soaked” with bitterness, but pleas keep it with the facts and don’t drag along people in it that has probably nothing to do with it.<O</O
      I’m not “blind” but also keep an open mind in this matter, there can well be a explanation for all this.<O</O
      Fact is that a helmet sold on a show pops up on mister Niewiarowicz website with a replaced liner, pure destruction of an authentic item, no question about that, but I see no proof of that being done by mister Niewiarowicz him self.<O</O
      Perhaps busy sorting things out for him self, but unfortunately his shortcoming till now in that does not improves this whole situation.<O</O
      In the sadly event that this all reveals it self like its shown, that would be off course a very sad day for all those involved.<O</O
      In that case we unfortunately must realise that if we should “crucify” al those who sometimes “adjust” items, we would be out of crosses very soon.<O</O</O


      But what would be the odds of it happening to the same person 3 times?The one's publicly known of course.
      For me the worst is knowing after the helmet had been altered, the time was taken to type up a COA. Would love to see a picture of that as well.

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        explanation,

        Originally posted by Perry Floyd View Post
        But what would be the odds of it happening to the same person 3 times?The one's publicly known of course.
        For me the worst is knowing after the helmet had been altered, the time was taken to type up a COA. Would love to see a picture of that as well.

        Not aware of more wrongs in the past, I only discussed this matter, it all depends if there are satisfying explanations given in the previous cases.<O</O
        You can’t judge people on the possible coincidence of buying or selling something that’s not what it supposed to be.<O</O
        With so much to learn, mine, yours and mister Niewiarowicz knowledge is still to limited to know everything there is to know in this field of collecting and to prevent us for the risk to get burned in the future.

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          Originally posted by tgn View Post

          What is a German helmet, anyways?

          Like I stated, stupid questions...Tom
          Indeed it is... but I think you will find the answer is quite simple... a German helmet is a helmet worn by the Germans.

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            Chris,
            you take things too literal.

            BTW, if a German puts on a US helmet, does that make it a German helmet?

            Tom

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              Originally posted by Ostfries View Post
              Not aware of more wrongs in the past, I only discussed this matter, it all depends if there are satisfying explanations given in the previous cases.<O</O
              You can’t judge people on the possible coincidence of buying or selling something that’s not what it supposed to be.<O</O
              With so much to learn, mine, yours and mister Niewiarowicz knowledge is still to limited to know everything there is to know in this field of collecting and to prevent us for the risk to get burned in the future.
              I understand and in alot of cases true but when there's no "wiggle room" for a believable explanation one can't be so gracious with the benefit of doubt. Anyway enough involvement from me, I think nothing really could be added to what's already been said.

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                [quote] The wartime steel liner band is maker marked and dated 1940. The dome stamp is dated 1939 so it is evident that this helmet was assembled during the transitory period before the full adoption of the M1940 specs. [quote germanhelmetsinc description]

                This description seems odd to me. If this helmet was completed in 1939 as per the dome stamp, how could it acquire a factory installed zinc 1940 dated liner? Of course a reissue is possible in this case, but I don't see how a factory issued helmet in this configuration makes any sense. The description does not suggest a reissue, but a factory issue piece.

                According to Brian Bell's book Wehrmacht Combat Helmets 1933-45: p.58

                "1940
                26 March: Army approves embossed air vent modification to M1935 helmets; M1940 helmet subsequently introduced. M1931 aluminum liner bands begin phasing out, replaced with zinc-plated steel."

                So it seems that from about 1/1/40 to about 3/26/40, the 1940 dated reinforced aluminum liner bands were produced. The zinc bands came after this date.

                Many helmets assembled during the "transitory period before the full adoption of the M1940 specs", ie: M35 helmets completed in early 1940, it seems were being fitted with aluminum liner bands (1939/1940 dated) and not zinc bands. A DD Police M35 helmet with parade green paint and 1939 domestamp does not strike me as being "transitory" at all.

                Although I am not saying that the helmet in question could not exist with a factory installed zinc band, from what is known about helmet manufacture, it seems unlikely.

                As I believe that domestamp dates are a very accurate way to date a helmet's manufacture, and as I understand that the domestamps signify a final inspection of a helmet before leaving the factory (liners already installed?), how then could a zinc band not even produced yet be factory installed in the said helmet?

                In summary: Ken's description of this helmet alone should have raised red flags, aside from the prior photos.
                Last edited by Brian Ice; 10-11-2006, 01:32 PM.

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                  oh well ,thats another to strike off the Favourites page

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                    Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
                    oh well ,thats another to strike off the Favourites page
                    There'll be no 'favourites' left, at this rate!

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                      hmmm

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=blazej+szymon


                      hmmm..... ??? deja vu ???

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                        Quite alot of interest in this thread. There have been almost 7,000 views of this topic so far in a short period of time.

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                          THIS IS A BIG THING IN HELMET COLLECTING WHEN A DEALER GETS CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN.IT HAS SEVERE CONSQUENSES,HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHECKED THIER HELMETS SINCE THIS BLEW UP.
                          ALL IN ALL WITH THE DEFINING SILENCE ITS CLEAR TO ALL GUILTY AS CHARGED.

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                            Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
                            THIS IS A BIG THING IN HELMET COLLECTING WHEN A DEALER GETS CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN.IT HAS SEVERE CONSQUENSES,HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHECKED THIER HELMETS SINCE THIS BLEW UP.
                            ALL IN ALL WITH THE DEFINING SILENCE ITS CLEAR TO ALL GUILTY AS CHARGED.
                            I checked- I think I'm OK

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                              Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
                              THIS IS A BIG THING IN HELMET COLLECTING WHEN A DEALER GETS CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN....

                              ....you******180;ll not find one dealer around the world without several skelettons in the cupboard.....sad enough......

                              It was great detective work Erich made! Thanks for that . We need a lot more of such guys!

                              Do we need any explanation from KenN? I don******180;t think so. What news should he tell us? Ops....a little fault.....liner just slipped in for some reasons....

                              Anyway we should keep it in mind and he should pray for his further business with WAF members.
                              Last edited by Niedersachsen; 10-11-2006, 03:32 PM.

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                                Originally posted by DougO View Post
                                ...I think this sort of thing goes on all the time in this hobby, and not just in helmets. I'm sure that uniforms and daggers are put together all the time by major, 'trusted' dealers. Doug
                                Uniforms and hats!!! OH do pray, Not so!!

                                Gentlemen, gentlemen ALWAYS remember, no matter who it might be in this hobby or what is collected Caveat emptor (and do yourselves the favor of forgetting any warranties).

                                B. N. Singer

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