MAX Show Polizei Helmet

[Glenn McInnes]

Gentlemen, gentlemen ALWAYS remember, no matter who it might be in this hobby or what is collected Caveat emptor (and do yourselves the favor of forgetting any warranties).

B. N. Singer

Now ain't that the truth!!!



Glenn

[KasserinePass]

... Heck, maybe Ken was just putting the orignal liner back in it after someone else changed it?...

Sure, ...in the meantime, outside, green, yellow and purple piglets were falling from the sky.

[MARKH]

Yes I've checked mine and I hope its OK , its very very disappointing when such a respected dealer enthusiast comes into question as shown here, especially when our confidence was fostered, based on the honest reputation.

[Mike Osbourne]

yes, and that's why the silence is so disturbing.......

[ANDY BUTKUS]

When i get home from work i dial into this thread with a cold beer in hand and i'm still waiting for Kens response to this...Ken where are you...???

Quite alot of interest in this thread. There have been almost 7,000 views of this topic so far in a short period of time.

[Bill G.]

Polizei Helmet

While there is no guaranteed way to know if a liner is original, pre-May, 1945, to a particular helmet, there are things to look for which may raise issues needing clarification. If you don't get the answers, or the ones provided don't fly, then pass on the helmet.

Bill

[LeeM]

Fact is that a helmet sold on a show pops up on mister Niewiarowicz website with a replaced liner, pure destruction of an authentic item, no question about that, but I see no proof of that being done by mister Niewiarowicz him self.<O</O</O

From reading the first post by Erich, I don’t believe chain of custody is an issue. If it were, I am quite certain Ken would have spoken up immediately.

[Brian Ice]

Speaking specifically about liner band dates matched to helmet shells, I have found that generally speaking the band date seems to reflect a likely date of manufacture, or within a year or two prior to this. This I would say is in regard to factory issued helmets.

Reissued helmets, whether factory, depot, field replaced, etc... seem to refect a much greater variety concerning band dates, often being earlier or later than the shell type.

IMO, the original 1939 band matched perfectly inside this police helmet for a factory issue. A 1940 zinc band would also make sense if field replaced or depot reissued. I do not believe it would make sense in a factory issue/factory reissue helmet.

[Theodor]

It will be important to see clear, close photos of that Police helmet, which started the whole thread. To see what the rivets look like - sure they will be "unmessed with" at first sight... As said, it will be very important to see what this masterpiece looks like, I hope the buyer will be willing to show it

[Ostfries]

open mind,

From reading the first post by Erich, I don’t believe chain of custody is an issue. If it were, I am quite certain Ken would have spoken up immediately.

Perhaps you are willing to enlighten me in this matter, but besides controversial circumstances I can’t find any on doubtful prove that it was mister Niewiarowicz him self who replaced the liner, so keep an open mind before placing a nose around someone’s head.

[PAB]

Perhaps you are willing to enlighten me in this matter, but besides controversial circumstances I can’t find any on doubtful prove that it was mister Niewiarowicz him self who replaced the liner, so keep an open mind before placing a nose around someone’s head.

If you read Mr Wahls first post! It was Ken! who bought it at the show from the dealer.

Oh maybee it was a little Elf came out a night and changed it.

[Daniele C]

but why changin a liner original to an helmet for replacin another one???that s wot i dont understand as well????

[Ostfries]

explanation,

If you read Mr Wahls first post! It was Ken! who bought it at the show from the dealer.

Oh maybee it was a little Elf came out a night and changed it.

No need to overreact, did not noticed it the first time I read the introduction post, if correct there will be no benefit of doubt towards mister Niewiarowicz, all depends then on his explanation or shortcoming of that in this matter.

[Theodor]

but why changin a liner original to an helmet for replacin another one???that s wot i dont understand as well????

Because this helmet would go nicely with a steel liner, while another helmet, early M35 /SS or other/ needs a good aluminum liner. So, the alu liner goes from the Police helmet to the other helmet - and the police helmet gets a steel liner. Just one of the many possible scenarios.

[cmaher55]

As interested in this thread that I am.....I am very sad about my hobby. I would really like to see Ken reply regarding this issue. I do not want to kick him when he is down but one thing I have noticed that his helmets for sale on his website is that most lack chinstraps. I see that under his Ebay ID he sells many chinstraps. For me, taking an original chinstrap off of an original, as found helmet, is a mortal sin! I am not saying that this is happening but I have found several German helmets for sale at thrift shops and garage sales over the years and they have all had chinstraps, or remnants of chinstraps on the D bales. Just something I have noticed over the years of watching Kens site, Ebay, and this forum. Regards, Chris