SS uniform ID help needed

[judas]

Some more wolff photos were sent to me today !! Thank you .

looks the same here , even the way the piping has a slite lower bend at the bottom going round imo .

[dornier]

Exactly , people must think it’s really easy and that someone would damage a real one to attach to a fake coat ?
I think this forum has become the, everything is fake if it isn’t owned by certain people forum.
I will never post another tunic here, because people comment just to comment. The trolls run the game here and some never owned more than a collar tab. Not every TR piece is a perfect by the book pristine example.
Hunt for what’s correct then find the mistakes not visa versa.

You are right

[panzer1432]

Grudgingly, looks to be a match. My apology, one must be cautious.

[panzer1432]

Exactly , people must think it’s really easy and that someone would damage a real one to attach to a fake coat ?
I think this forum has become the, everything is fake if it isn’t owned by certain people forum.
I will never post another tunic here, because people comment just to comment. The trolls run the game here and some never owned more than a collar tab. Not every TR piece is a perfect by the book pristine example.
Hunt for what’s correct then find the mistakes not visa versa.

Correct, but most higher ranking officer tunics are kept in better condition than this. Additionally, of course there has always been a clique here. No big deal. The forum is a lot of fun. No absolute authentication can take place unless hands on. Especially for a high dollar item such as this piece. In this condition it's a $15k to $25k piece.

[DonC]

With all due respect, look at the three loops on the pocket to the left of the EK and GPB. I am not trying to piss all over the OP's tunic, but I see some things that don't add up.

Don

[dhunter93]

WAF is just insufferable sometimes, a one looker tunic appears and it gets crapped on and people opine on nonsense to run it down. Photographic evidence appears to refute the critics but still the nonsense continues. Now the Wolff tunic appears to match and yet more troll chatter. Anyone that thinks that members of the high command only owned one or two tunics and that they never added or removed decorations is an idiot - period.

[panzer1432]

With all due respect, look at the three loops on the pocket to the left of the EK and GPB. I am not trying to piss all over the OP's tunic, but I see some things that don't add up.

Don

Oh Geez....now you did it !! John is gonna open a can of whoop ass !

[Oldrusty26]

I am appreciative of all the input here both negative and positive actually , I am still looking for more clear pictures of the medal pattern for further clarification , I was going to jump off the forum because of all the initial negativity among users ( not the negative opinions about the tunic because everyone has opinions ) I wasn’t trying to start issues between anyone .
but both sides have been helpful actually .
thanks again to everyone .
does anyone have any pics of a 30’s era staff overcoat with a leather armband ?? Lol !! That will be my next focus .

[DonC]

Oh Geez....now you did it !! John is gonna open a can of whoop ass !

I call it like I see it. So does John. I can appreciate that.

Don

[phild]

The leather coat is the sleeper or unsung hero in this. IMO it is probably or at least possibly the only surviving example of what may be a regulation (RZM?) SS black leather officer’s OC not in generals rank, known and that also goes for the armband. As mentioned by others the cuffband is also crazy rare and early. There were WWI, Weimar and early 3rd Reich police leather overcoats in black but they were not made like this coat. Inside and rear belt area photos are needed, but this coat is hundreds of times rarer than a black cloth SS OC and most collectors have never even seen a real one of those.

[panzer1432]

The leather coat is the sleeper or unsung hero in this. IMO it is probably or at least possibly the only surviving example of what may be a regulation (RZM?) SS black leather officer’s OC not in generals rank, known and that also goes for the armband. As mentioned by others the cuffband is also crazy rare and early. There were WWI, Weimar and early 3rd Reich police leather overcoats in black but they were not made like this coat. Inside and rear belt area photos are needed, but this coat is hundreds of times rarer than a black cloth SS OC and most collectors have never even seen a real one of those.

You might be spot on. If Wolf tunic is the real deal and it does seem to be. The leather coat comes from the same vet, might be good.

[Oldrusty26]

What is this cross ?

[101combatvet]

Some more wolff photos were sent to me today !! Thank you .

That's an exact match.

[panzer1432]

I call it like I see it. So does John. I can appreciate that.

Don

Just injecting a little Southern California Humor, my brother !

[cossack1648]

When you compare the tab and especially the piping they are identical, same contour. Loops which some tried to trash, look the same too. Perfect match to my eyes. Anyone denying it has an agenda.
It happens often here and it happened to me. Some unknown collector posts a unique item and some people try very hard to shoot it down. And then out of the blue you get messages with offers to buy it, but of course for the fraction of the value since your piece "have issues".