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Originally posted by den70 View PostGentlemen, I again ask you to show the same version of Roehm’s dedication on the Pack's dagger. Why talk about faith, when you can show the same dedication and point out its similarity. This photo will be better than 1000 posts of defenders or opponents. Other case, we will also write empty 50 pages, presupposing what could have happened in more than 80 years.
If you ask me what I want to see inside, I can answer. Pack's Christmas Daggers has a very specific tang. I would also be interested to see the internal marking of the guard. This will either give a chance or finally remove it for me.
And what Den stated is exactly what happened.
That said, it's up to the owner if they want to show the tang, they don't have to, but IMO it doesn't help their cause by not showing it.
-Serge
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Originally posted by Serge M. View PostThis is the post Fred is talking about.
And what Den stated is exactly what happened.
That said, it's up to the owner if they want to show the tang, they don't have to, but IMO it doesn't help their cause by not showing it.
-Serge
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Originally posted by tk99 View PostI would flip the question around to DEN70. What does he expect to see on the tang?
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?t=1042464
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Originally posted by tk99 View PostI would flip the question around to DEN70. What does he expect to see on the tang?
2. The following is a quote from the ERM booklet that was kindly provided to me;
" The ERM team estimates that approximately 20 of these SS M-33-type prototypes were originally produced. This estimate is based upon the surviving number of pieces and the markings found inside these pieces' crossguards and grips."
Pg. 14
-Serge
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Originally posted by Frogprince View PostI hate to sound harsh, but with this brass Turkey/Bird of an Eagle I'm sensing some more "stonewalling" and "blowing smoke". Den has posted a lot of good information and has made a simple request. Wasn't it you that just said: "EXACTLY!!! That why there’s no reason to share pics or information unless it’s to someone you can trust." There is no guarantee that the Turkey/Bird dagger will ever be taken apart for inspection - so why should he help anybody of the Turkey/Bird team or anyone else any more than he already has? FP
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?t=1042464
I’m talking about the tang.
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Originally posted by Serge M. View Post1. Well it doesn't work that way, and you know it.
2. The following is a quote from the ERM booklet that was kindly provided to me;
" The ERM team estimates that approximately 20 of these SS M-33-type prototypes were originally produced. This estimate is based upon the surviving number of pieces and the markings found inside these pieces' crossguards and grips."
Pg. 14
-Serge
I believe Den70 is basing on the assumption that the tang of the SA Christmas Pack shares something similar to the SS Christmas Pack.
Maybe it does, or doesn’t.
Is that information about the tang a secret? If Den70 doesn’t want to reveal his information, I respect that. Then it’s just a matter of having Den70 inspect one personally.
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Originally posted by tk99 View PostI’m not talking about the eagle. I have my own opinions but I will reserve it to myself.
I’m talking about the tang.
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Originally posted by Frogprince View PostOK, so you want den70 to tell you what he knows about the tang for what reason? You should already know - because what Serge posted says that the Team knows about the inside markings (see post #1250/1252) on the so-called prototypes which has to include the Turkey/Bird dagger. Which of course means that it has already been taken apart (unless somebody is “blowing smoke” or “stonewalling”). FP
”If you ask me what I want to see inside, I can answer. Pack's Christmas Daggers has a very specific tang. I would also be interested to see the internal marking of the guard.”
The internal markings are different. So what?
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Originally posted by tk99 View PostFor what reason? Did you not read what Den70 wrote? Here it is,...
”If you ask me what I want to see inside, I can answer. Pack's Christmas Daggers has a very specific tang. I would also be interested to see the internal marking of the guard.”
The internal markings are different. So what?
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Be assured it has the correct markings
I thinks one of the reason more photos have not been posted is mr prinz
His attitude on this and other posts and his dogmatic refusal to answer questions without waffling ,posting irrelevant photos, is tiresome to say the least
I think we all agree the eagle is not very nice
Its more telling of it being original as a faker would have made a better one or used a period one off say a stick pin which are readily and cheaply availableLast edited by nickn; 04-21-2020, 08:33 AM.
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Originally posted by nickn View PostBe assured it has the correct markings
I thinks one of the reason more photos have not been posted is mr prinz
His attitude on this and other posts and his dogmatic refusal to answer questions without waffling ,posting irrelevant photos, is tiresome to say the least
I think we all agree the eagle is not very nice
It more telling of it being original as a faker would have made a better one or used a period one off say a stick pin which are readily and cheaply available
Totally agree, well said nick
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Originally posted by nickn View PostBe assured it has the correct markings
I thinks one of the reason more photos have not been posted is mr prinz
His attitude on this and other posts and his dogmatic refusal to answer questions without waffling ,posting irrelevant photos, is tiresome to say the least
I think we all agree the eagle is not very nice
Its more telling of it being original as a faker would have made a better one or used a period one off say a stick pin which are readily and cheaply available
+1
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