Post your unknown unit and or tactical emblem photos

[Larrister]

Closer view.

[Todd Gylsen]

It looks very close to the 384th Infantry Division symbol as seen on this site:

http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/_dat...teremblems.htm

[attilio]

Four Leaves Clover of Luftwaffe units in North Afrika

Have you any idead about the Luftwaffe unit that used the Four Leaves Clover ("Kleeblatt") symbol in North Africa with the DAK?

You can find several pics of vehicles with this symbol in this thread in DAK forum
http://www.afrika-korps.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1576

Can it be the:
Heeres FlaK MG Bataillon 606 (sp)

Heeres FlaK MG Bataillon 609

Heeres FlaK MG Bataillon 612

Heeres FlaK MG Bataillon 617

or the I./Flak-Regiment 43?

Thanks

Attilio

[Richard Woods]

The clover leaf is...

the sign of I./Flak-Regiment 43.

[Larrister]

It looks very close to the 384th Infantry Division symbol as seen on this site:

http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/_dat...teremblems.htm

Hi Todd,

That's the symbol. Thanks for the help.

Cheers,

Larry

[H BABERT]

Hi,
any thought?
found in Brittany-France


Thanks
herlé

[attilio]

Four Leaves Clover ("Kleeblatt&quot symbol in North Africa with the DAK

Thanks to Richard Woods!

have you any references about?

Attilio

[Akira Takiguchi]

The earliest published work that attributes the four-leaf clover to I./43 is a 1992 book "DAK - Koku fan illustrated No.66" written by my friend Mr. Kitamura.

The standard work about Truppenkennzeichen is the Biblio Verlag books by Schmitz/Thies, but we WAF members know that Richard is preparing a brand new book and we are eagerly waiting for it to come out!

[R MICHAEL]

Thank you Richard for your participation in this thread! I can say I am with Akira, can't wait for your book to come out.

Here is a Luft symbol that is a bit distinctive.


Mike

[Karl B]

Hi

Need some help with the castle symbol.

Any ideas.

Cheers

Karl

[Akira Takiguchi]

We expect a Korps sign...

II./Artillerie-Regiment 71 was a Heerestruppe and subordinated to XXXXVII A.K. at the beginning of Barbarossa. I have no further data, but Schmitz/Thies does not carry sign of XXXXVII A.K. from this period (see Band.4), so slight chance I see...

Anyone with better OoB data from later period?

P.S. very nice photo!

[Akira Takiguchi]

Not unknown, but...

The photo comes from a photo group of a soldier who belonged to Panzerj******228;ger-Abteilung 152 and later Armee-Panzerj******228;ger-Abteilung 742. The photo is apparently from 152.

The problem (if you call it so) is: Schmitz/Thies (Band 4, S.272) states that "R" in shield was used as divisional sign of 52.Infanterie-Division until disbanded in November 1943 ('R' is for GenLt. Rendulic who lead the division until October 1942 - it is based on a letter from Willy Steinmayer, A.A.152). But as you can see, a three circles was used, which Schmitz/Thies states in S.274 as that of 52.Sicherungs-Division. The meaning of the sign is left unresolved.

I would appreciate it if someone out there can show photographic/documentary evidence that 52.Inf.Div. used three circles before its destruction.

[Akira Takiguchi]

close up

[Maikäfer]

Here are some things I can't figure out. It appears to be a 3.Kompanie but from what unit? Symbol seems to be a flag? Also what does "IK" on the number plate mean?

[R MICHAEL]

here is another emblem from a photo that was taken during 1940 in the westfeldzug.

Mike