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    #31
    As requested here are some close ups on the Trap

    Cheers
    Gary
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          #34
          That is sewn just as I would like to see it.

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            #35
            everything Bwanek1 said is right on.
            This is a good trap for sure.
            David Patrick talks in such strong terms but obviously does not know what he is looking at.

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              #36
              Guys, allow me to thank you for all the comments in this thread.

              We can't ask more from the actual owner, his cooperation and actitude on this matter had been no more than OUTSTANDING.
              Last edited by sunny59; 05-08-2006, 08:18 PM.

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                #37
                While you have not shown photos of the whole cap (such as the reinforcing on the flaps) I can, without any doubt, say yes the insignia and the way it is sewn to the cap is correct. The straight machine stitch is the way I like to see traps sewn on as a preference.

                Here is a shot of the only SS Panzer M43 cap I have held onto with the trap insignia as a comparison.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TONY2411
                  While you have not shown photos of the whole cap (such as the reinforcing on the flaps) I can, without any doubt, say yes the insignia and the way it is sewn to the cap is correct. The straight machine stitch is the way I like to see traps sewn on as a preference.

                  Here is a shot of the only SS Panzer M43 cap I have held onto with the trap insignia as a comparison.
                  Tony, thanks for your comments + picture. After looking your picture carefully I notice your eagle + skull are different in design from the one I posted including the ones from Gary Wood. If this acceptable to find more than two styles??

                  This is a never ending learning process

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                    #39
                    There are at least two different types of Bevo Panzer trapezoids (I'm not including the Pirate trap which was not Bevo). I cannot recall if the third Bevo type was made in the Panzer style off the top of my head.

                    However, your cap has an original type and it is sewn on correctly.

                    Maybe it's time for a thread on these to show the originals.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TONY2411
                      There are at least two different types of Bevo Panzer trapezoids (I'm not including the Pirate trap which was not Bevo). I cannot recall if the third Bevo type was made in the Panzer style off the top of my head.

                      However, your cap has an original type and it is sewn on correctly.

                      Maybe it's time for a thread on these to show the originals.
                      The BeVo traps came in four gereral styles, two with a double row of teeth and two with a single row of teeth. Each of the single row of teeth styles had a couple subtle style variations of its own, not including color variations. I did a quick search and found a couple threads that were already started on the topic, though neither is a complete reference with photos of every style and color variation:

                      http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...ad.php?t=49101

                      http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...ad.php?t=27037
                      Last edited by bwanek1; 05-09-2006, 09:34 PM.

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                        #41
                        Here are some pics as requested................i think other than locating the Fritz who made it we will not get any more proof it is 100% original

                        Thanks
                        Gary
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                            why not another
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                                #45
                                Looks like a nice original cap.

                                Has anyone stumbled upon a period photo of an SS panzerman wearing one of these yet? I think we've seen photos of grey/green caps with this style of trap on the forum before but no black ones as yet.

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