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Originally posted by colt45s View Postdon't think the ship name was ever on the bell
Imperial Navy: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lockesmsdd.jpg
Kriegsmarine: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=ship+bell
Bundesmarine:
https://www.google.be/search?q=bunde...TZ8RBmF-UFM%3A
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Mine came with a pea coat, jumper, and donald duck hat from a former Graf Spee crew member. It is my understanding that they were cast in South America as ccmmeratives for those who wanted one and one was sent to the family of those killed onboard. It is a strictly privately purchased piece and certainly nothing official. They are not of any great value and just an interesting souvenir.
By the way, they arew much smaller than a ships bell and not intended to be a copy of the official ship bell.
Bob HritzIn the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.
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Bob,
Do you still have the jumper, or is it the white one you showed me?
I personally do not think the bell has a thing to do with GS crewmen, dead or not.
No personal effects got back to Germany during the war from Argentina or Uruguay, even the effects of Captain Langsdorff were not returned to the widow until after the war.
Not many German merchant ships got into Germany after the war got going, much less ones carrying bells.
No indication in any of the written material I have seen indicates anything about a bell either.
I think they are flea market souveniers.
My opinion.
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as I stated before: flee market souvenir indeed!!
http://deerbe.com/unt/75294-glocvke_...tem_klang.html
http://verzamelen.tweedehands.net/kr...spee-1939.html
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351243917384
http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Letters/SecondGrafSpeeBell.html
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Originally posted by John Robinson View PostBob,
Do you still have the jumper, or is it the white one you showed me?
I personally do not think the bell has a thing to do with GS crewmen, dead or not.
No personal effects got back to Germany during the war from Argentina or Uruguay, even the effects of Captain Langsdorff were not returned to the widow until after the war.
Not many German merchant ships got into Germany after the war got going, much less ones carrying bells.
No indication in any of the written material I have seen indicates anything about a bell either.
I think they are flea market souveniers.
My opinion.
Bob HritzIn the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.
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Originally posted by Totenhead View PostMy bell is from Cardiff, a major port in South Wales. Its very old, there is no denying that.
If these are merely flea market souvenir finds, where are the Bismarck, Tirpitz bells, why only GS ?? .......
titanicshipsbell.jpg
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Originally posted by glaser View PostMaybe the manufactor of this souvenir Graf Spee bells saw the movie "the battle of the river Plate" and never heard of the Bismarck. Anyway he also saw the movie "Titanic"
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I paid very little for my bell, indeed I only bought it for the curiosity value, I have no interest in the Graf Spee or the Kriegsmarine
I do have a very inquisitive mind however and do not like mysteries.
Bobs thesis has not been disproved by yourself or anyone else, so until then I have an open mind regarding these bells
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