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"Back to logic.....it was asked 'why, would a repo maker use real silver'?"
Was it asked here? http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&postcount=261George
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Originally posted by George Stimson"Back to logic.....it was asked 'why, would a repo maker use real silver'?"
Was it asked here? http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&postcount=261
Good point. If Floch is offering the options of real silver vs plated, then the simple presence of silver itself would tend not to be solid evidence of period pieces. In contrast, the presence of many "inappropriately labeled" "800" stamped silver plated items would be suspicious. I guess I can see an odd mistakenly labeled piece. However, if the whole lot is silver plated, that would be very strange. I could not see a maker of RKs trying to pull a fast one on the nazi governement for its entire production line and risking the consequences.
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Tom,
this is now the 4th time I post this - chasing you from post to post, where you make this assertion or assumption that all Rounders are silver plated and incorrectly marked "800".
You tested my Rounder and so did I. It clearly showed silver. Plating ios very, very thin (in the micron area), so base material would heve shown up. In addition, etching in the sense of the cheimcal removal of copper form the 800 (or whatever grade) silver works only with silver not with plating.
So Tony's example is so far a 'one of a kind". Surely, there will be more of this type (the very early ones) but nobody knows, if all of them have been lableled incorrectly 800. Maybe, maybe not. It could easily be a mistake by the assembly guy. You cannot see if it's plated or pure.
And again, if you think that SEM would NOT show plating, then please think about the possibility that your tested S&L and Juncker and K&Q are also plated brass or whatever. I doubt that, hwoever.
Dietrich
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Originally posted by DietrichTom,
this is now the 4th time I post this - chasing you from post to post, where you make this assertion or assumption that all Rounders are silver plated and incorrectly marked "800".
You tested my Rounder and so did I. It clearly showed silver. Plating ios very, very thin (in the micron area), so base material would heve shown up. In addition, etching in the sense of the cheimcal removal of copper form the 800 (or whatever grade) silver works only with silver not with plating.
So Tony's example is so far a 'one of a kind". Surely, there will be more of this type (the very early ones) but nobody knows, if all of them have been lableled incorrectly 800. Maybe, maybe not. It could easily be a mistake by the assembly guy. You cannot see if it's plated or pure.
And again, if you think that SEM would NOT show plating, then please think about the possibility that your tested S&L and Juncker and K&Q are also plated brass or whatever. I doubt that, hwoever.
Dietrich
Dietrich- See the other thread. I agree that without some defect in the piece, it is not possible to tell with SEM whether a piece is plated or solid silver. I am not saying that all rounders are silver plated. I am saying that if further testing is done and it is found that many, if not all, rounders are silver plated and 800 marked, that would be VERY suspicious.
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Originally posted by DietrichOh, I certainly agree to that. But at least mine is not plated and 3 I know of right now have the "etched' frosting, so those are not plated for sure.
DietrichLast edited by tom hansen; 07-24-2005, 10:51 AM.
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