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For a very, very short time.
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Now i search this rare uniform [emoji2]Comment
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It's reverse has that name printed. Unless the seller made a mistake and posted the wrong photo front to the back which happens sometimeOriginally posted by wilhelm Saris View Post
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Are these young men Stahlhelm? Thanks.
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Looks like Polizei in my opinion.Originally posted by BlackWatch1 View PostAre these young men Stahlhelm? Thanks.
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It's dated 1933 if that helps
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Bavarian Police.Comment
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Thanks guys!
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I got lucky at a recent auction and was able to acquire these 2 very nice Stahlhelmbund badges, one a named Wehrsportkreuz and the other a first model Bundesstern. Since they came together, I'm assuming that they are from the same guy. This is the first Bundesstern I have come across in my many years of collecting. Are they that rare/scarce? ChrisComment
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The bundestern is the first I have seen
The whersport is a high number of 936 , I would say privately engraved as my knowledge only the first real low numbers were purposely engraved when issued or to a personality which this maybe
The pin is not the normal pin I have seen on other badges also the middle helmet pin is solid and not like other whersport badges. These are the obvious differences I see.
Thank you for showing fantastic find
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Hi can you post better pics of both badges please? Of the Eagles headsLast edited by chris clark; 01-05-2016, 01:55 AM.Comment
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The Wehrsportkreuz anyway has the correct information. The number matches with this information.
It was granted for five years to Heinrich Dreyer from Ortsgruppe Zwischenahn from the Landesverband Oldenburg-Ostfriesland and announced September 10, 1933.
It was published then and as to be granted between July 1 and August 1933. It was one of the last announcements.Comment
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Thanks, Bill! I can always count on you with that database/library of yours to match the badge number with the recipient. I really appreciate it. Chris Clark noted some differences between this Wehrsportkreuz and others that he is familiar with, but this must be attributed to slight differences between makers because I have yet to see a reproduced/post-war version of a Wehrsportkreuz. Do any even exist?
There are other pictures of the Bundesstern, both 1st and 2nd models, within this great Stahlhelmbund thread so I am surprised that Chris Clark says that this is the first he has seen (in circulation I'm guessing). No one has answered how rare/scarce these Bundessterne are, but if the man, Chris Clark, who owns a pair of 1918 Stahlhelmbund badges, does not have a Bundesstern in his collection, then I'm guessing there are very few of them in existence? Might be my best find ever, especially since I paid less than a Wehrsportkreuz goes for by itself for the both of them. About time I had a little bit of luck in this expensive hobby. Thanks again to Bill and Chris for your input.Comment
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As far as I am informed the Wehrsportkreuz was manufactured after the war for the new Bund. And by the same manufacurer as who did this in the 1930's. But honestly said, I do not know who, as I can't find the name in my files.
The Bundesstern one does not see that often. In my opinion rarer then a Wehrsportkreuz. Practically most of the insignia, to be worn with the leather shoulder-belt, are hard to find.Comment
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