Der Stahlhelm! Bund der Frontsoldaten!

[Sergeant 08]

Yes, for the "Deutscher Abend" at September 5, 1929, haha!!

For a very, very short time.

[Masch19]

Now i search this rare uniform [emoji2]

[Sergeant 08]

Now i search this rare uniform [emoji2]

Best of luck!

[BlackWatch1]

From what do you conclude it to be Stahlhelm Bund der Frontsoldaten, Blackwatch?

It's reverse has that name printed. Unless the seller made a mistake and posted the wrong photo front to the back which happens sometime

[BlackWatch1]

Are these young men Stahlhelm? Thanks.

[Sergeant 08]

Are these young men Stahlhelm? Thanks.

Looks like Polizei in my opinion.

[BlackWatch1]

It's dated 1933 if that helps

[Brian L.]

Bavarian Police.

[BlackWatch1]

Thanks guys!

[dastardly]

I got lucky at a recent auction and was able to acquire these 2 very nice Stahlhelmbund badges, one a named Wehrsportkreuz and the other a first model Bundesstern. Since they came together, I'm assuming that they are from the same guy. This is the first Bundesstern I have come across in my many years of collecting. Are they that rare/scarce? Chris

[chris clark]

The bundestern is the first I have seen
The whersport is a high number of 936 , I would say privately engraved as my knowledge only the first real low numbers were purposely engraved when issued or to a personality which this maybe
The pin is not the normal pin I have seen on other badges also the middle helmet pin is solid and not like other whersport badges. These are the obvious differences I see.

Thank you for showing fantastic find

[chris clark]

Hi can you post better pics of both badges please? Of the Eagles heads

[wilhelm Saris]

The Wehrsportkreuz anyway has the correct information. The number matches with this information.

It was granted for five years to Heinrich Dreyer from Ortsgruppe Zwischenahn from the Landesverband Oldenburg-Ostfriesland and announced September 10, 1933.

It was published then and as to be granted between July 1 and August 1933. It was one of the last announcements.

[dastardly]

Thanks, Bill! I can always count on you with that database/library of yours to match the badge number with the recipient. I really appreciate it. Chris Clark noted some differences between this Wehrsportkreuz and others that he is familiar with, but this must be attributed to slight differences between makers because I have yet to see a reproduced/post-war version of a Wehrsportkreuz. Do any even exist?
There are other pictures of the Bundesstern, both 1st and 2nd models, within this great Stahlhelmbund thread so I am surprised that Chris Clark says that this is the first he has seen (in circulation I'm guessing). No one has answered how rare/scarce these Bundessterne are, but if the man, Chris Clark, who owns a pair of 1918 Stahlhelmbund badges, does not have a Bundesstern in his collection, then I'm guessing there are very few of them in existence? Might be my best find ever, especially since I paid less than a Wehrsportkreuz goes for by itself for the both of them. About time I had a little bit of luck in this expensive hobby. Thanks again to Bill and Chris for your input.

[wilhelm Saris]

As far as I am informed the Wehrsportkreuz was manufactured after the war for the new Bund. And by the same manufacurer as who did this in the 1930's. But honestly said, I do not know who, as I can't find the name in my files.
The Bundesstern one does not see that often. In my opinion rarer then a Wehrsportkreuz. Practically most of the insignia, to be worn with the leather shoulder-belt, are hard to find.