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Originally posted by rob NL View PostThe writing in better light.....Last edited by Minnesinger; 06-27-2012, 03:21 PM.
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Originally posted by rob NL View PostWhy so hard? Look at how the I's are dotted.
Normally you see this over the U.
EDIT: And before anyone objects I mean when you are obviously making an effort to write something nice and correct (like in the helmet).
Here is how you write it:
Last edited by Minnesinger; 06-27-2012, 04:12 PM.
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Originally posted by rob NL View PostNo, he went over there, and Witt signed for all of the items. He was there all night. So each item was signed by him, that's what he said.
Now, I understand that you would like to protect the son of Fritz Witt, but to me he is also in on the whole story.
If he would have made the statements himself, he would have had them there when he sold the items to me.
He went over there and spent an entire evening getting the items signed.
That happened when we were still negotiating for other items, and I had to go over there anyway to pick things up. In the meantime I found out the items were not his, so the story ended pretty fast...
My phonecall made it VERY clear to me he is in on the deal.
Rob,
So, Kai went over to Peter's place to have all the statements signed,
on the basis of your personal request?
But you did not see these anymore, because you pull out of the deal
when you realized that it was not Witt's real stuff after all?
Therefore you never really got to see the statements?
Did I understand correctly?
(No worries I don't want to protect the old man, Macher also tried to
sell the Thorshammer saying and writing it was Himmler's when it fact it was not...)
Markus
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Originally posted by WEISNER View PostOne thing I am confused about, what does the Witt grouping have to do with Heinz Macher as implied by the thread title? is there a Macher grouping as well with all these bells and whistles that was put together by Willi Wonka?
Kevin
That is correct.
Both families sold some stuff, but Kai Wonka pimped both of them up to the max.
Btw, do the jobs look similar to all the uniform items of past andreas-thies and hermann-historica auctions? Coincidence?
Markus
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Kev the tunic in post 116 is supposed to be Machers as well as the cap that follows.http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=584811
Also a good thread to read...because I have been in Rob's position where I saw something in hand and the first reaction is awe because the old smells of the garments and the striking original insignias which hit the eye before everything else...then you take the item home and you start doing research and you find small but obvious discrepencies...almost not enough to condemn a piece but enough to spark suspicion...its not a novice hobby SS items...the best get taken in by these things look at how many bought those fake tuxedo badges. This is a travesty because so many tunics have come out of the Wonka factory over the years and are out there in collections...I even sold a couple I bought from him, I sold them thinking nothing was wrong with them but never felt quite satisfied with what I was looking at . Not sure where they all are now except one.Last edited by John Pic; 06-27-2012, 10:47 PM.
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Was the light summer tunic you use to own originally from Kai?
Originally posted by John Pic View PostKev the tunic in post 116 is supposed to be Machers as well as the cap that follows.http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=584811
Also a good thread to read...because I have been in Rob's position where I saw something in hand and the first reaction is awe because the old smells of the garments and the striking original insignias which hit the eye before everything else...then you take the item home and you start doing research and you find small but obvious discrepencies...almost not enough to condemn a piece but enough to spark suspicion...its not a novice hobby SS items...the best get taken in by these things look at how many bought those fake tuxedo badges. This is a travesty because so many tunics have come out of the Wonka factory over the years and are out there in collections...I even sold a couple I bought from him, I sold them thinking nothing was wrong with them but never felt quite satisfied with what I was looking at . Not sure where they all are now except one.
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