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    #76
    I found this recently and i just saw this thread and wondered if you could shed any light on it , i know nothing about such items all i know is it has to be 19th century

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      #77
      Spelter Eagle comments ...

      Originally posted by upbeek View Post
      This spelter eagle looks similar?? Any ideas ?.
      [and]
      I found this recently and i just saw this thread and
      wondered if you could shed any light on it , i know
      nothing about such items all i know is it has to be
      19th century
      Hello upbeek:
      Nice eagle, even without claw feet. By the leg
      out of plane placement it was likely mounted to a
      canted perch or weighted desk top circle base - as
      I have one like it somewhere in my collection storage.
      If leg screw threads are SASE then US/UK made, if
      metric threads then from likely elsewhere in Europe.
      OLDFLAGSWANTED
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      ...
      (My Gladiator Eagle)
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      sigpic
      .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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        #78
        Thankyou OFW you have some great birds in your collection !

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          #79
          about Roman eagles ...

          Originally posted by upbeek View Post
          ...OFW you have some great birds in your collection !
          Thanks. I especially like those based on the standards
          of the ancient Roman Army, although I'm told no legion
          eagles have actually survived into modern times. This
          was a question I was privileged to be able to ask in person
          to the then failing health elder Birley, years ago at his
          superb British border Roman Hadrian's Wall Roman Army
          Museum. An experience I still very fondly recall to this day.

          OLDFLAGSWANTED
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          ...
          (My Gladiator Eagle)
          ****************

          (below) From my last ever military show display.
          Attached Files
          Last edited by oldflagswanted; 11-30-2013, 06:27 AM.
          sigpic
          .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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            #80
            Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
            Thanks. I especially like those based on the standards
            of the ancient Roman Army, although I'm told no legion
            eagles have actually survived into modern times. This
            was a question I was privileged to be able to ask in person
            to the then failing health elder Birley, years ago at his
            superb British border Roman Hadrian's Wall Roman Army
            Museum. An experience I still very fondly recall to this day.

            OLDFLAGSWANTED
            ...
            ...
            (My Gladiator Eagle)
            ****************

            (below) From my last ever military show display.

            Im going to find time to do some metal detecting soon , il add the Roman eagle to my hunt list

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              #81
              This French spelter eagle is of the same age and style to the one i posted above
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                #82
                Two sharp pictures of my GM's eagle:









                The front was cleaned before the pictures but obviously not the back obviously. See how the gold plating is in better shape on the back (less shiny but deepest yellow color).
                Last edited by Staldion; 12-03-2013, 09:48 AM.

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                  #83
                  front vs back ???

                  Originally posted by Staldion View Post
                  Two sharp pictures of my GM's eagle:
                  The front was cleaned before the pictures but obviously not the
                  back obviously. See how the gold plating is in better shape on the
                  back (less shiny but deepest yellow color).
                  Hello Staldion:
                  Interesting eagle, appears to be two fronts (right/left facing)

                  put together over a wreath - without a back with tail showing.
                  First I've seen done like that, and with a display tube below.

                  OFW
                  (below) Your two eagle fronts shown side by side.
                  (below-2) From my collection, what a tail back looks like.
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by oldflagswanted; 12-09-2013, 01:24 PM.
                  sigpic
                  .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                    #84
                    Very nice, thanks for posting !!!

                    Originally posted by upbeek View Post
                    This French spelter eagle is of the same
                    age and style to the one i posted above
                    Hello upbeek:
                    IMO, another very nice looking spelter eagle,
                    especially with the claws clutching a thunderbolt.


                    (below) Roman origins of the Eagle's Thunderbolt, from post #30.
                    sigpic
                    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                      #85
                      more Roman thunderbolts ...

                      Found elsewhere online a Roman Eagle above weapons from an
                      Augustan-era funerary monument, probably that of Messalla from
                      the Prado Museum, in Madrid Spain.

                      OFW
                      (below) Cited Roman Eagle, another example of Thunderbolt use origins.
                      Attached Files
                      sigpic
                      .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                        #86
                        more snakes ...l

                        Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
                        ...Archaeologists excavating at the future site of a 16-story hotel in
                        London have uncovered a 1,800-year-old statue of an eagle with a
                        writhing serpent in its beak.
                        ...and...
                        Have in my own collection another eagle with serpent - a Mexican
                        Golden Eagle perched on a prickly pear cactus devouring a snake...
                        OFW
                        I have another snake standard in my collection for sometime now,
                        but just recently was able to photo confirm its on screen movie use.

                        Used in Ancient Roman theme 1955 movie Jupiter's Darling, a movie
                        said to have ended Esther Williams MGM film career. As shown props
                        from
                        this movie were reused from MGM's 1950 Julius Caesar. My hand
                        carved wooden snake standard likely also dates back to the silent
                        1925 Ben-Hur, as the design has a spoked chariot wheel center, and
                        the banner flown below contained a horse figure. Chariot wheel flags
                        were shown in MGM's 1959 Ben-Hur sound remake. Snake, wheel, and
                        top device form exactly matches this listing provided on screen photo.
                        Would be nice to know if the other Roman prop standards also survive?
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                        Last edited by oldflagswanted; 12-25-2013, 11:04 PM.
                        sigpic
                        .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                          #87
                          Napoleonic Eagle in WW2

                          Just received a snail mail letter from an old friend with this cited
                          as contained in the book "Stalingrad: Memories & Reassessments",
                          pp 96-97, "We were then advancing on Moscow almost on the
                          exact route march of Napoleon. My division crossed the Berezina
                          at the identical spot where the desparate battle of retreat had
                          been fought so long ago. There, by the hamlet of Studyenka, not
                          far from Borisov, our engineers found the traces of Napoleon's
                          bridge and one of his eagles in a swamp." I wonder where this
                          eagle is now?

                          OFW
                          (below) Napoleon's retreat was 'a veritable moving mountain,
                          more than 2 metres deep, of dead and dying, pushing, shoving,
                          hemmed in on all sides, at each step risking being thrown down
                          by the convulsive spasms of those we were trampling underfoot.'
                          Attached Files
                          sigpic
                          .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                            #88
                            A few zeros less than the thread title:

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                              #89
                              Andreas, looks like the PT was painted with hobby shop paint.

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                                #90
                                $$$ 000 ???

                                Originally posted by der-hase-fee View Post
                                A few zeros less than the thread title:
                                Hello d-h-f:
                                Interesting ersatz DE top, wondering if from a movie?
                                And also what the DE banner used below looked like?
                                What does the RIA listing say, including the $ numbers?

                                OFW
                                (below) From my own collection, with somewhat alike on the right.
                                sigpic
                                .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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