I found this recently and i just saw this thread and wondered if you could shed any light on it , i know nothing about such items all i know is it has to be 19th century
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Originally posted by upbeek View PostThis spelter eagle looks similar?? Any ideas ?.
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I found this recently and i just saw this thread and
wondered if you could shed any light on it , i know
nothing about such items all i know is it has to be
19th century
Nice eagle, even without claw feet. By the leg
out of plane placement it was likely mounted to a
canted perch or weighted desk top circle base - as
I have one like it somewhere in my collection storage.
If leg screw threads are SASE then US/UK made, if
metric threads then from likely elsewhere in Europe.
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about Roman eagles ...
Originally posted by upbeek View Post...OFW you have some great birds in your collection !
of the ancient Roman Army, although I'm told no legion
eagles have actually survived into modern times. This
was a question I was privileged to be able to ask in person
to the then failing health elder Birley, years ago at his
superb British border Roman Hadrian's Wall Roman Army
Museum. An experience I still very fondly recall to this day.
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(below) From my last ever military show display.Attached FilesLast edited by oldflagswanted; 11-30-2013, 06:27 AM.sigpic
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Originally posted by oldflagswanted View PostThanks. I especially like those based on the standards
of the ancient Roman Army, although I'm told no legion
eagles have actually survived into modern times. This
was a question I was privileged to be able to ask in person
to the then failing health elder Birley, years ago at his
superb British border Roman Hadrian's Wall Roman Army
Museum. An experience I still very fondly recall to this day.
OLDFLAGSWANTED
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(My Gladiator Eagle)
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(below) From my last ever military show display.
Im going to find time to do some metal detecting soon , il add the Roman eagle to my hunt list
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front vs back ???
Originally posted by Staldion View PostTwo sharp pictures of my GM's eagle:
The front was cleaned before the pictures but obviously not the
back obviously. See how the gold plating is in better shape on the
back (less shiny but deepest yellow color).
Interesting eagle, appears to be two fronts (right/left facing)
put together over a wreath - without a back with tail showing.
First I've seen done like that, and with a display tube below.
OFW
(below) Your two eagle fronts shown side by side.
(below-2) From my collection, what a tail back looks like.Last edited by oldflagswanted; 12-09-2013, 01:24 PM.sigpic
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Very nice, thanks for posting !!!
Originally posted by upbeek View PostThis French spelter eagle is of the same
age and style to the one i posted above
IMO, another very nice looking spelter eagle,
especially with the claws clutching a thunderbolt.
(below) Roman origins of the Eagle's Thunderbolt, from post #30.
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more Roman thunderbolts ...
Found elsewhere online a Roman Eagle above weapons from an
Augustan-era funerary monument, probably that of Messalla from
the Prado Museum, in Madrid Spain.
OFW
(below) Cited Roman Eagle, another example of Thunderbolt use origins.
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more snakes ...l
Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post...Archaeologists excavating at the future site of a 16-story hotel in
London have uncovered a 1,800-year-old statue of an eagle with a
writhing serpent in its beak. ...and...
Have in my own collection another eagle with serpent - a Mexican
Golden Eagle perched on a prickly pear cactus devouring a snake...
OFW
but just recently was able to photo confirm its on screen movie use.
Used in Ancient Roman theme 1955 movie Jupiter's Darling, a movie
said to have ended Esther Williams MGM film career. As shown props
from this movie were reused from MGM's 1950 Julius Caesar. My hand
carved wooden snake standard likely also dates back to the silent
1925 Ben-Hur, as the design has a spoked chariot wheel center, and
the banner flown below contained a horse figure. Chariot wheel flags
were shown in MGM's 1959 Ben-Hur sound remake. Snake, wheel, and
top device form exactly matches this listing provided on screen photo.
Would be nice to know if the other Roman prop standards also survive?
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Napoleonic Eagle in WW2
Just received a snail mail letter from an old friend with this cited
as contained in the book "Stalingrad: Memories & Reassessments",
pp 96-97, "We were then advancing on Moscow almost on the
exact route march of Napoleon. My division crossed the Berezina
at the identical spot where the desparate battle of retreat had
been fought so long ago. There, by the hamlet of Studyenka, not
far from Borisov, our engineers found the traces of Napoleon's
bridge and one of his eagles in a swamp." I wonder where this
eagle is now?
OFW
(below) Napoleon's retreat was 'a veritable moving mountain,
more than 2 metres deep, of dead and dying, pushing, shoving,
hemmed in on all sides, at each step risking being thrown down
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$$$ 000 ???
Originally posted by der-hase-fee View PostA few zeros less than the thread title:
Interesting ersatz DE top, wondering if from a movie?
And also what the DE banner used below looked like?
What does the RIA listing say, including the $ numbers?
OFW
(below) From my own collection, with somewhat alike on the right.
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