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Houffalize Panther from 116 PzDiv will be completely overhauled

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    I expect the " Restoration " will be a clean,tidy and paint job they just dont have the money to buy the parts needed and there isnt the local interest to spend any real money on it sadly

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      Originally posted by Lloyds View Post
      I expect the " Restoration " will be a clean,tidy and paint job they just dont have the money to buy the parts needed and there isnt the local interest to spend any real money on it sadly
      A good reason to sell it then...I rest my case

      They could buy a Replica panther like that one built on a T55 donor tank and put that there in its place...aslong as it looks like a panther then that will be good enough for most

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        Or they could just give it to me

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          Watched this wonderful video.

          Why hadn't they cut the tank by gas into many pieces? .
          So the task of restoration would be completely eliminated .

          What was the problem to disassemble the turret interior before lifting the turret?
          They broked all the details that they could broke. Fantastic job.

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            What they have done is criminal. I think that we can say good bye to any meaningful restoration. They would have been better to sell it and buy a replica.

            Jon

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              Originally posted by johann mor View Post
              What they have done is criminal. I think that we can say good bye to any meaningful restoration. They would have been better to sell it and buy a replica.

              Jon
              This one would do
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                i am suprised that anyone thought the panther would be restored just the cost of a external restoration would be crazy money with all the missing bits wheels,tracks swing axles and engine grill castings needed plus the damaged parts like the torsion bars 1200-1500 euros each and that is just to make it look ok from the outside and to make it run you can add several mill euros to that.maybe you could just about get a panther if you combine the Grandmenil,Celles with the Houffalize one together as was talked about some years back but no chance of that

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                  Originally posted by johann mor View Post
                  What they have done is criminal. I think that we can say good bye to any meaningful restoration. They would have been better to sell it and buy a replica.

                  Jon
                  Can we assume that this "Restoration" has been a ploy to acquire by subterfuge an original panther engine ? We only have to study the way in which the team of "Engineers" ripped apart the turret and dismantled this historic vehicle with cutting gear that they have little or no regards to the parts rusted or not ! Recruited from the local scrapyard springs to mind ! I fear this Panther has been destroyed once again by the enemy ! Johann mor hits the button :- Criminal !

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                    Criminal? Worry more about what your government is doing.

                    I visited this Panther, and I hate to see what is being done to it. But, I suspect less that .01% of the population of Belgium, or any country for that matter, would give this matter a second of thought. We have to get real.
                    Willi

                    Preußens Gloria!

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                      Like I said already the Engine will probably be sold to cover the restoration costs...
                      I watched the video on FB of them taking the engine out,why go to the trouble of taking the Engine out if its only going to be tarted up?...no point is there really

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                        A few pics i've lifted off FB

                        The engine and hull
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                          couple more turret and hull
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                            last one engine bay
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                              Folks,

                              You have to understand that to people in Houffalize, at least those who remember or care to history, this Panther is a monument, not a museum artifact. For others , it is a tourist magnet that brings revenue to their business.
                              I guess the town of Houffalize is in a hurry to get it back in place.

                              Imagine La Gleize without the TigerII ??

                              Cheers

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                                panther monument

                                hi all

                                From paintings of the masters they make copies as well and these will be put in museums while the genuine ones are kept in a vault. ( to prevent theft)
                                They should make a polyester replica Panther ( like the Munster Tiger I) and put that on a concrete plint in Houffalize. The genuine stuff should be restored properly and kept and be preserved in best conditions for future generations.
                                Another 70 years in the open won't do it any good.
                                I must admit the engine looks pretty good ...the rockers don't seem to have suffered from corrosion.
                                I'm very curious to see what this restoration wil render ...I don't think they will search to find 32 wheels ....they don't have that kind of cash to buy these now. Hopefully they already have all these missing parts.

                                Cheers
                                Bullitt

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