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    Hello !

    According to Schmitz-Thies, a similar symbol was used by Heeres-Küstenart.Abt. 910 (1942/43 near Leningrad).
    That is possibly the source for the wrong identification on the photo. As you mentioned, this unit was equipped differently,
    with French 155mm guns.

    In principle I agree with s.pak/Patrick that independent H.-Artillerie units equipped with Hummel are very rare.
    But I think there were a few, for example H.Art.Abt. 101, from which I have a Soldbuch :
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...3&postcount=12

    Regarding the tactical sign :
    It refers to the local history of Hamburg and "Hummel Hummel Mors Mors" seems to be a famous saying still today.
    https://city-souvenir-shop.de/online...81&language=de

    So it could be a Arty unit from WK X (but I don't think so).
    It could be that the crew has relations to Hamburg.
    Or it could be simply a playing with words, as Patrick suggested ...
    And if it is from a Panzerdivision, it will probably become difficult.

    Best regards,

    Archi

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      Archi, what is your source for 101 having Hummel ? I found it surprising that you said tthe three batteries each had only 4 vehicles, it was normal for a Wespe/Hummel Batterie to have six. Lexikon der Wehrmacht has 101 being destroyed in Stalingrad and then reformed in 1943 but it doesn't say where, before being renamed Heeres-Artillerie-Abteilung 101 at the end of August 1944.

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        Hello !

        The information is from the book by Uwe Kleinert : Die Organisationsgeschchte der
        deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. WK.
        (A very detailed work on all those indepedent artillery units).

        The unit was split at Stalingrad and 185 men remained inside the cauldron.
        The rest fought under Armees-Abt. Holldit, were it was also refitted in March/April 43.
        (The first Hummeln arrived only by January 1944).

        Why the unit was by Febr. 44 organized in 3 battries with 4 Hummeln each, I do not know.
        But from a strength report of 4. Pz.Armee, dated 16.02.44, the unit had a
        Soll of 14 Hummeln and a Ist of 17, so the equipment had arrived by then.

        BTW, the old Panzerkeil site listed ~5 independent units equipped with Hummeln, but many
        also with a questionmark.

        Best regards,

        Archi
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          Thank you Patrick, Alan and Archi.

          II./63 also had Hummel. I don't have any photos from the unit so identifiable though.

          This slide is from a Hungarian doctor - but I see the Hummel is from a german unit.

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            Thank you.

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              After some further research i think the " Kleberblatt " sign might belong to a ground unit connected to Zerstörergeschwader 26 / zg. 26.

              <a href="http://s235.photobucket.com/user/Aru-Ed/media/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Aru-Ed/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo img148 2_zpsxckknzmn.jpg"/></a>



              Originally posted by muno11 View Post
              Hello,

              the cloverleaf what the sign of Fallschirmjäger-Regiment 3.

              Kind regards

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                Originally posted by Aru-Ed View Post
                After some further research i think the " Kleberblatt " sign might belong to a ground unit connected to Zerstörergeschwader 26 / zg. 26.

                <a href="http://s235.photobucket.com/user/Aru-Ed/media/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Aru-Ed/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo img148 2_zpsxckknzmn.jpg"/></a>
                II./JG 5

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                  This seems to be a hard cookie to crack...…!-)
                  Some pictures i have, have the town of Sloboda written in the back, it seems JG5 was never stationed around this place / town?


                  Originally posted by A1exandeR View Post
                  II./JG 5

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                    Originally posted by Aru-Ed View Post
                    This seems to be a hard cookie to crack...…!-)
                    Some pictures i have, have the town of Sloboda written in the back, it seems JG5 was never stationed around this place / town?
                    No, Sloboda its wrong. JG 5 airfields is Petsamo, Alakkurti, Salmijarvi, Rovaniemi etc., arctic area...

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                      Sorry, but thanks for your help.
                      This unt had it's quarter in Sloboda - West, so no JG5 i think….

                      Originally posted by A1exandeR View Post
                      No, Sloboda its wrong. JG 5 airfields is Petsamo, Alakkurti, Salmijarvi, Rovaniemi etc., arctic area...

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                        Hi guys anyone recognize this emblem or unit? Nothing was written on the back of the photo.




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                          Originally posted by Aru-Ed View Post
                          After some further research i think the " Kleberblatt " sign might belong to a ground unit connected to Zerstörergeschwader 26 / zg. 26.

                          <a href="http://s235.photobucket.com/user/Aru-Ed/media/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Aru-Ed/Unit%20Division%20Tactical%20signs/img148%202_zpsxckknzmn.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo img148 2_zpsxckknzmn.jpg"/></a>

                          I.FlakRgt(gem.mot).43 FlakDiv.19

                          Karl

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                            Hello Karl,

                            Thanks for your input.
                            To my knowledge the 19. Flak Division has not been on the Russian front??
                            So i have my doubt that this could be FlaK regiment 43.


                            Originally posted by DRm View Post
                            I.FlakRgt(gem.mot).43 FlakDiv.19

                            Karl

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                              Hello,

                              any help for this one ...??
                              Attached Files
                              Collect all GEBIRGSJAEGER - items ...

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                                The closest that I can get with that one is 95 ID which had a shield with three diamonds inside it.

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