Originally posted by Norm F
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John
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You are correct, this is the issue and now I have to find the images of the other tally if I can find it.
John -
Hi Guys,
Sorry about the confusion on the terminology of the different forms of "s". John has been using it correctly as described here:
"The long, medial or descending s (ſ) is a form of the minuscule letter s formerly used where s occurred in the middle or at the beginning of a word, for example "ſinfulneſs" ("sinfulness"). The modern letterform was called the terminal, round, or short s."
long s = ſ-shaped
short s = s-shaped
Best regards,
---NormComment
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On this posting from Frank you can see two Minensuchflottille tallies with two different forms of "s" in "such". The "14. Minensuchflottille 14." tally with the short s should be subject to the same discussion as Justin's "Unterseebootsflottille Emsmann" with the short s.
Best regards,
---NormComment
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Nice example. Really interesting and I find quite fascinating is that there were so many variants and constructions and base materials. Because it is part of the uniform, you would think that it would only conform to one example or design pattern. It really didn't matter for KM breast eagles, or other insignia such as cuff titles or other insignia. Would wonder if certain Captains wanted or preferred a certain look to their crew and their muetzenband preference before the Order from OKW came through and took out the named division/ship tallies?
Thanks for posting this Norm.
Regards,
JustinGComment
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Hi Guys,
I can confirm that there is the 2 forms of the S in the Emmsman tally.
I too saw this variant in a collection a little while back and questioned
It's authenticity. To my amazement and surprisement I was informed both
Exist. So all is kosher here with these beauties!
Nice additions Frank and JustinC, still hunting for the elusive Wegener tally so any heads up
Would be appreciated?? On the flip side have a few things to share that I'm sure all will like shortly!
Cheers,
JustinC
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Kreuzer Lützow tally added
Greetings Gentlemen. I have the luck to add a goldwire (metalfaden) version of the Kreuzer Lützow.
I had just heard that this ship did have tallies produced but apparently never issued. Dani (MarineHJ) posted an example of one which is very similar to the one I am acquiring.
I feel very fortunate to add a tally like this in my collection.
I will post pictures as soon as it arrives. I am very excited to have this one "pulling into my collection here in Anchorage, AK.
Regards,
JustinGComment
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Another "Unterseebootsflottille Emsmann" tally which I have aquired recently together with 13 other ones (6 of them U-Boot tallies). It has metal threads.
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close-up frontComment
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close-up backComment
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Kreuzer Lutzow
Front and back This is a full length tally
Regards,
JustinGComment
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Wow sweet dude!
Nice work
JustinCComment
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Thanks, pretty stoked.
Regards,
JustinGComment
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Nice tallies guys
Yes, wow - very rare one there. Congrats Justin!Comment
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That's incredible, another Lützow surfaced.
Congratulations Justin.
Best Regards,
RicardoComment
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Yes, not much you can say. Great addition Justin. JohnComment
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