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    #106
    Originally posted by james m View Post
    I quite agree Gaspare and IMO the same holds true for firearms. As an appraiser I get asked to do appraisals from pictures all the time and I refuse. I don't care how good the photos are there's just too much that can be missed and I won't put my name on something where I can't verify the information is accurate as I believe you're just asking for trouble.
    Jim
    And thus we arrive at the issue of what HR certification was actually done with ring in hand, and what wasn't. And how one proves it. Also, the community needs transparency on all dealers that had a cosy arrangement of just sending pictures for certification. There is such a dust storm on this matter now that I would want to see post and packaging documentation/receipts with any certification, and even then I would still be a doubter. I actually am saddened by this whole matter.
    Mac

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      #107
      Amazingly good research.

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        #108
        I did not see one ring for sale at the SOS.

        I was hoping to see if prices were affected by the COA issue.

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          #109
          Originally posted by 11C View Post
          I did not see one ring for sale at the SOS.

          I was hoping to see if prices were affected by the COA issue.

          I would think that the price/popularity will increase. More and better reference books not to mention boards such as this. Once people accept that they can understand what they are looking at without going thru a few gatekeepers who must approve it, the market opens up.

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            #110
            Originally posted by 11C View Post
            I did not see one ring for sale at the SOS.

            I was hoping to see if prices were affected by the COA issue.
            I´m selling TK rings and potential buyers are still asking me for Don´s COA, so this case was a storm in a glass of water, I think...

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              #111
              Originally posted by equirhodont View Post
              I´m selling TK rings and potential buyers are still asking me for Don´s COA, so this case was a storm in a glass of water, I think...
              For sure buyers that don't read WAF and that don't know the COAs were sent without having rings in hands. And you know what I'm talking about.
              Many knows it, but I'm sure no one will tell here, they prefere the silence. Isn't it Martin?

              My books:

              - THE WEHRPAß & SOLDBUCH OF THE WH
              - THE SS TK RING
              - THE ITALIAN-GERMAN MEDAL
              - THE ANTI PARTISAN BADGE
              - THE AWARDS OF THE LW

              and more!

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                #112
                Originally posted by equirhodont View Post
                I´m selling TK rings and potential buyers are still asking me for Don´s COA..........
                No doubts they will ask Don's CoA for a long time, it's not so easy to delete someone with 50 years and more of experience about the matter.

                Ric

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                  #113
                  - There were at least 10 HRs for sale at the SOS,,if not more..

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                    #114
                    Originally posted by Gaspare View Post
                    - There were at least 10 HRs for sale at the SOS,,if not more..

                    Maybe someone need glasses my friend!

                    My books:

                    - THE WEHRPAß & SOLDBUCH OF THE WH
                    - THE SS TK RING
                    - THE ITALIAN-GERMAN MEDAL
                    - THE ANTI PARTISAN BADGE
                    - THE AWARDS OF THE LW

                    and more!

                    sigpic

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                      #115
                      Originally posted by Antonio Scapini View Post

                      Maybe someone need glasses my friend!
                      Seriously........??? I was there on Thursday and did not see any. I even asked my friend to look. Maybe I do need glasses..

                      How were the prices?

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                        #116
                        I had a 44 issued to a Waffen SS DKiG winner on the table. It sold Friday afternoon.

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                          #117
                          Just my opinion, but believe that dedicated collectors know where originals are in collections these are bought and sold without ever seeing shows or forums. When one does show up they are not usually subjected to forum judgement. Hope that makes sense. Ron

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                            #118
                            One dealer had 6,,but only displayed 3.. My buddies had seen 4 more spread out there... Could there have been more?, did they miss one or a couple? probably yes!

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                              #119
                              Originally posted by 11C View Post
                              Seriously........??? I was there on Thursday and did not see any. I even asked my friend to look. Maybe I do need glasses..

                              How were the prices?
                              Maybe you were looking at lights in the sky and missed everything?

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                                #120
                                Personally I think the bubble burst for TK HRs. I had one some years ago but sold it off and never looked back. I think TK HRs over the last few years have been tainted. There are now three books from different authors and it makes this hobby confusing (but also interesting).

                                Mil

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