Waffen-SS HBT Dot Camo Uniform in Detail

[4th division]

My "Dot" tunic, marked RBNR unreadable.

[greg.p]

rbn# on tunic reads 0/0793 010 (just like mine)

[greg.p]

by the way, nice belt !

[4th division]

Gray reversible padded winter coveralls - 1147
gray charkov parka trousers - 1110

[Remy Spezzano]

Gray reversible padded winter coveralls - 1147
gray charkov parka trousers - 1110

Thanks for keeping the thread going. In regards to posting production codes on this thread, it would be best if we can always back up a number with a photo of the item showing the ink stamp. This way the list will consist of legit ink stamp numbers we know for sure.

If you can please upload a photo showing the ink stamp for 1147 and 1110.
Thanks!

[Remy Spezzano]

My "Dot" tunic, marked RBNR unreadable.

Thanks for posting the photos of your mint unissued M44 Dot camo tunic.

The RBNR ink stamp is evidence that the Waffen-SS dot camo uniform was also manufactured by non SS Bekliedungswerk facilities.

Keep in mind that in the year 1944 when this uniform first made it's debut the SS clothing department needed to produce tens of thousands of this uniform. All the major SS fighting divisions were being supplied with this uniform. A perfect example would be the 12. SS-Hitlerjugend-Division which by June 1944 had almost 20,000 NCO's and enlisted men. Almost all of the panzergrenadier regiment was outfitted with a mixture of either the DOT camo uniform or a pullover smock.

[Disco Partisan]

Good thread
just found a few errors in the list bellow highlighted in yellow

Waffen-SS Uniform Manufacturer Codes
_37 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
_41 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
_52 tunic Model 37, field grey wool
_65 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
117 panzer wraps, stug. wraps, keilhosen, field grey wool
349 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
383 panzer wrap, oak leaf camo
393 tunic HBT dot camo
479 great coat, field grey wool
525 tunic Model 40, field grey wool
525 overcoat Model 42, field grey wool
627 panzer wrap, field grey wool and black wool
712 panzer wraps, black wool
910 panzer pants black wool, M43,44 pants fieldgray, officer breeches field grey wool, Gebirgsjäger wind jacket
933 winter hood, oak leaf camo reversible to white
933 camouflage pullover smocks, plane tree camo



Waffen-SS Uniform Manufacturer by Name
Alois Heisse tunic Sahariana, tunic Model 36, 37, 41, field grey wool, also allgemeine black tunics and coats
Walter Klemm, Hornberg Schw. HBT dot camo pants

Should be:
65 -- fieldgray tunic M43 (see post: 42)
349 -- fieldgray tunic M43 (see post: 29)
525 -- fieldgray tunic m43 (see post: 27-28)

[Remy Spezzano]

Normandy France, Eterville sector, July 1944.
SS-Staf. Eduard Deisenhofer (Kommandeur of SS-Pz. Gren. Regt. 21 of the 10. SS-Panzer-Division "Frundsberg") inspects his men along the front line. Everyone pictured here with the exception of the man holding the K98 rifle are wearing the M44 DOT camo uniform.

[Remy Spezzano]

Thanks Disco Partisan for the corrections.
The list has been updated and I've added a new section for the non SS controlled clothing manufacturers who are known to have produced SS uniforms and are ink marked with a RBNR. (Reichsbetriebsnummer).



Updated List as of Sept. 25, 2016

Waffen-SS Uniform Manufacturer Codes
_37 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
_41 tunic Model 42, field grey wool
_52 tunic Model 37, field grey wool
_65 tunic Model 43, field grey wool
117 panzer wraps, stug. wraps, keilhosen, field grey wool
349 tunic Model 43, field grey wool
383 panzer wrap, oak leaf camo
393 tunic HBT dot camo
479 great coat, field grey wool
525 tunic Model 40, field grey wool
525 overcoat Model 43, field grey wool
627 panzer wrap, field grey wool and black wool
712 panzer wraps, black wool
910 panzer pants black wool, M43,44 pants fieldgray, officer breeches field grey wool, Gebirgsjäger wind jacket
933 winter hood, oak leaf camo reversible to white
933 camouflage pullover smocks, plane tree camo



Waffen-SS Uniform Manufacturer by Name
Alois Heisse tunic Sahariana, tunic Model 36, 37, 41, field grey wool, also allgemeine black tunics and coats
Walter Klemm, Hornberg Schw. HBT dot camo pants


non SS Uniform Manufacturer using RBNr.
RBNr. 0/0793 010 tunic HBT dot camo

[Remy Spezzano]

Here is an excellent study done by collector Adrian Stevenson on the Reichsbetriebsnummer RB numbering system. Well worth the time to study up on how the numbering system works. You'll never look at another RBNr. the same way again! http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/heer-l...system-239110/

[ironcross13]

would be good if we could make this a sticky and keep adding pics ect. to it would be a good reference.

[Remy Spezzano]

would be good if we could make this a sticky and keep adding pics ect. to it would be a good reference.

Great idea! I totally agree. Maybe if enough people interested in this thread would email moderator Gary Wood he would be willing to pin it to the top of the page?

There are plans to add a lot more information and photos to this thread which would help collectors.

[4th division]

So, what about this one?

88 for the waist
82 for the inner length of trousers
104 for outer length of trousers,
171 for intended length?

So 1/2, pf and 36 can be a maker? Or 171/36 is a RZM number?

[MM1985]

I once wrote down in my files that the RB Nr. 0/0793 010 often found on dot tunics is from the Company:

Textil und Bekleidungswerke GmbH Becker

[MM1985]

2 other prominent private SS contractors are:

München Lodenfabrik Joh. Gg. Frey

and

Mayerhofer - München

Both often found in M-40/M-41 tunics.