MOTÖRHEAD's LEMMY Under Investigation For Wearing SS Visor

[101combatvet]

It would be bad enough to make up stories about outlaw relatives.... but this garb can get you in trouble with the wife.

[John Pen.]

John Pen
Wearing it does not equate to collecting it! Collecting is alot more than just putting on a uniform and medal and parading around against establishment. They could care less about preserving or saving it form the trash. And who are we showing respect to? Ron

Ron,,
You and Kreig777 are cool guys, IMO.
I guess on this one, we all have to agree to disagree.
Cheers,
Jp

[John Pen.]

It would be bad enough to make up stories about outlaw relatives.... but this garb can get you in trouble with the wife.

Another good example of how this stuff just can't keep out of the headlines. Eventualy maybe it will lose it's "shock" value?????.....maybe not.

Anyway, if that girl had a different face, she might be sexy.

Jp

[gnadenlose]

Wearing it does not equate to collecting it! Collecting is alot more than just putting on a uniform and medal and parading around against establishment.

On the other hand, wearing items from your collection won't make you any less "serious" collector than those who keep their treasures behind thousand locks. If these celebrities don't write the "scientific" tractates about their collectibles for collectors' communities, it's just fine, because wide majority of collectors never compose any music or write poetry. Jedem das seine, no hard feelings

[kammo man]

That bird has a face like a bag of old oily spanners ...........rough.

Wearing old army stuff is fun , I used to wear a 44 Dot tunic down the pub all the time ......
It was a reverse print.
Split many a beer over it with no worries .
It was mine .
I bought it.
Its in a good friends collection now for me to see any time I want.

Thats half the fun of it .

[smitty]

SS collecting and Lemmy

Well, let's see. The title to this forum says, Dedicated to all SS cloth and insignia collecting. So Lemmy is a collector wearing SS clothing and insignia in the news. So IMO, it can be listed in this forum. I have found this thread a great read so far. And the pictures of Brian Jones and John Lennon are something that I would not of even known about. Please keep adding more pictures of people wearing their SS uniforms and insignia. Once in the late sixties, a group of La Jolla surfers from Wind and Sea, stole some SS uniforms from a movie set. They rode their skate boards and bikes in the Christmas parade in full uniforms and made the front page of the local paper. I will try to find the pictures and have them posted if I can. Smitty.

[kammo man]

Smitty ,
those pictures were shown somewhere on this forum before !!!

[John Pen.]

Smitty,
I'd like to see them, I haven't seen them. Kammo, can you post a link?
Here is some original color footage of those (probably)same kids;

http://macmedadestruction.com/la-jol...zi-flexy-flyer

That clip was from the opening sequence from the movie "Riding Giants"
Here; (min. 6:20-8:20 of clip) in it narrator states that "Some guy's father came back from the war and had a closet full of Nazi stuff"...);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbPsCikHLVQ

I grew up about 8 miles from that place in La Jolla(and was even there at the time).

Sorry guys if you have seen this before. But if you haven't, get ready to blow yer minds!!!!!

Jp

[kammo man]

John ,
Great post .
The pix were still shots from your post of the guys coming out of the pipe.
I read it at least a year ago somewhere in the depths of the Der K section.
But thats the same guys for sure .
o

[smitty]

Wind n sea SS flexie flyers

Thank you John, that is what I was talking about. Mac passed away a couple of years ago. He used to drink at the VFW in North Pacific beach. I grew up, and still live in north P.B. This story is still told at the Lattitude 32 pub in P.B. at least once a month. When I come into the pub, my friends that remember these great surfers, always give me a kind of salute and yell, Was Los Ist? Thanks for sharing, Smitty

[LarryHW.]

Hmmm....

I really don't care what he wears. I think most people would, however, take exception to his and your claim that that the Nazis were no worse than Americans, British, French, Candadians___________(fill in the blank) and, of course, any of their victims.

Dave, get serious for a moment. Re-read your comments below. Yes, disrimination against African Americans was widespeard before and during World War II, but were blacks in the US being taken to concentration camps? Were the Blacks in the US being exterminated by the milions? Was the nation's leader threatening their wholesale murder? Was it proclaimed US policy to exterminate them? Why, Dave, did Afirican Americans very wholeheartedly serve in their nation's armed forces and war effort when war came? Why Dave, did so may make it crystal clear, at that time and afterward, that while their nation did not always live up to its promise, they had no desire to see a Nazi victory. Ya think it might have been because, in America, African Americans had a Constitution and a Bill or Rights to base their struggle on. What, exactly, would they have had under the Nazi's?

Yes, Dave, I am sure that, during the 36 Olympics Owens could stay at the same German hotels and go to the same restaurants as his white team mates. So could Jews on various Olympic teams. Remember that the Nazis put on their nice face during the games. The anti-semitic and rascist signs, slogans and other goodies came down.....until the games were over and the teams gone.


Dave, we are all entitled to our own opinions. We are not entitled to our own facts.

forgot to add;


have you guys read Lemmy's auto bio "white Line Fever"? he talks about his TR collecting in it.

he also makes some interesting comments about todays PC world when it comes to attitudes towards TR stuff.

One very interesting point Lemmy brings up about PC people who get on their high horses about wear nazi gear is the thin ice they stand on when pointing the finger at nazi racism.

the same time the nazis were doing their thing in the USA blacks were being discriminated against full-on.

so who's the nazi now

Lemmy also says that when black american Jessie Owens won the gold in the Berlin Olympics he got a better reception from Hitler than he did from the white folks back home...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Owens

"Owens was cheered enthusiastically by 110,000 people in Berlin's Olympic Stadium; on the street, Germans sought his autograph. Owens was allowed to travel with and stay in the same hotels as whites, while at the time blacks in many parts of the United States were denied equal rights. After a New York City ticker-tape parade of Fifth Avenue in his honor, Owens had to ride the freight elevator at the Waldorf-Astoria to reach the reception honoring him."

"Owens said, "Hitler didn't snub me—it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."[13] Jesse Owens was never invited to the White House nor bestowed honors by presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) or his successor Harry S. Truman during their terms."

[Totenhead]

Here's Kate Bush for those who have more sophisticated taste in music. My vote goes without doubt to Lemmy, live fast, die old!

She looks very cute there btw, alot cuter than Himmlers daughter, see another thread !

[DaveNZ]

wow Larry took you a long time to come back with that rebuttle

But Larry, i think you just hit a new record of the number of times my name has ever been used in a post on the internet as well

But Larry, good to see you admit to the widespread discrimination against blacks (and please dont forget the indians!!) that has gone on in the USA.

Thats got to be progress Larry

keep up the good work

I really don't care what he wears. I think most people would, however, take exception to his and your claim that that the Nazis were no worse than Americans, British, French, Candadians___________(fill in the blank) and, of course, any of their victims.

Dave, get serious for a moment. Re-read your comments below. Yes, disrimination against African Americans was widespeard before and during World War II, but were blacks in the US being taken to concentration camps? Were the Blacks in the US being exterminated by the milions? Was the nation's leader threatening their wholesale murder? Was it proclaimed US policy to exterminate them? Why, Dave, did Afirican Americans very wholeheartedly serve in their nation's armed forces and war effort when war came? Why Dave, did so may make it crystal clear, at that time and afterward, that while their nation did not always live up to its promise, they had no desire to see a Nazi victory. Ya think it might have been because, in America, African Americans had a Constitution and a Bill or Rights to base their struggle on. What, exactly, would they have had under the Nazi's?

Yes, Dave, I am sure that, during the 36 Olympics Owens could stay at the same German hotels and go to the same restaurants as his white team mates. So could Jews on various Olympic teams. Remember that the Nazis put on their nice face during the games. The anti-semitic and rascist signs, slogans and other goodies came down.....until the games were over and the teams gone.


Dave, we are all entitled to our own opinions. We are not entitled to our own facts.

[DaveNZ]

ps: larry, are you saying that discrimination against blacks is ok so long as they dont get sent to concentration camps or that blacks dont get exterminated in their millions?

your logic is flawed

and anyhow i didnt think there were different degrees of discrimination...it just IS.

[piw]

What a bizarre thread