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    #136
    thorsten chance to shine?

    Originally posted by Michael Fay View Post
    Quote from Thorsten in the Collector Community Forum in thread 'Have you got stuff you wont sell' on the Plaque:

    "While doing research for my thesis I found the history behind and the origin of that specific wooden plaque."
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    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=14
    the spirit of WAF forum is about sharing info...So Thorsten, here is your chance to actually look good sharing this info you have proclaimed you have found....
    or not.

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      #137
      Thought I share another period wooden family crest here - made of heavy german oak and masterly carved.

      A perfect addition to the Erbhof sign and other DHW goodies.
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        #138
        Due to request here are some more shots of this unique piece.
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          #139
          The plaque is quite heavy and huge: Length is 32 cm - height 45 cm - depth 3 cm.
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            #140
            The quality is simply outstanding - the smooth patina is the cream on this one.
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              #141
              so you post something else here to garner interest for a private sale but refuse to share what you claim is pertinent information on my plaque (of which this thread is about).
              It appears you are a very petty troll.

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                #142
                The info about your plaque is out there - somewhere.

                Happy hunting!

                I finally found another one which suits my taste well enough to be happy and thankful to the seller.

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                  #143
                  Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post
                  The info about your plaque is out there - somewhere.

                  Happy hunting!

                  I finally found another one which suits my taste well enough to be happy and thankful to the seller.
                  petty troll

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                    #144
                    Concentrate on the subject.

                    Actually your plaque and mine do show similarities in regards to the doubtless use of germanic runic symbols - while yours is highlighted by the sword and Stahlhelm mine is enframed via an octagonal outer rim.

                    Taking these known period design elements into account - where have these been in use, Michael?

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                      #145
                      Would be cool to have one with my family name.

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                        #146
                        Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post
                        Actually your plaque and mine do show similarities in regards to the doubtless use of germanic runic symbols - while yours is highlighted by the sword and Stahlhelm mine is enframed via an octagonal outer rim.

                        Taking these known period design elements into account - where have these been in use, Michael?
                        Only a troll like you would claim to have pertinent info on my piece and refuse to share it, then post on my thread with a different item.
                        you troll

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                          #147
                          Very nice carving of oak, my question is what period is this made in? Also you toss in DHW when this would have been a privately made entity not a mass or semi mass designed item, so no DHW tie there.

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                            #148
                            Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post
                            Thought I share another period wooden family crest here - made of heavy german oak and masterly carved.

                            A perfect addition to the Erbhof sign and other DHW goodies.
                            I agree that it is beautifully carved, but, it is not a 'crest'...the term 'Crest' (Helmkleinod) only refers to the part of the whole armorial achievement which sits on top of the helm.
                            I am not convinced in this case that the Crest (Helmkleinod) and Charge (Schildfigur) are runic symbols...given the overall style of the Wappenzusammensetzung, it is more likely that this design represents the 'Crucifixus Dolorosus' or 'Forked Cross' (Gabelkreuz) than the 'Man' or 'Leben' Rune from which it was adapted (to suit the medieval Christian Church).
                            It could also be argued that the three spades in the chief are indicative of National Socialist ideals, but in reality, the spade/shovel/trowel has been a common heraldic charge for centuries. I also doubt that the Nazis held the monopoly on the octagon.
                            Regardless of when it was made, it is still a beautiful example of heraldic wood carving.

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                              #149
                              Yes, I also think it is indeed a fine piece and according to the former owner it is from the 30ties and that is why I could not resist.

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                                #150
                                Inspect the piece not the story

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