29th Div. Italian SS insignia

[PBR]

Not for WH or WSS for sure.

[John T]

Hi Guys...thanks for the info!

It is neat looking at any rate,

John

[Cryptato]

Hi guys, thanks for info.....
I love WAF....
but i have another question on my red tab. 29a ( Italian WSS )?????
The tab is thin...and mint.
Landschutz ?

[Cryptato]

photo 2

[NickG]

same thing as LW Flak artillery but with no gulls applied...
so unissued ...no stitch marks, no holes ...just moth damaged!

[Dennis S]

same thing as LW Flak artillery but with no gulls applied...
so unissued ...no stitch marks, no holes ...just moth damaged!

Yes it could be, but also could be Ital SS . My thought are the same tabs sometimes used . I like the tab .

[Cryptato]

Thanks guys: I have some tabs of Flak, but they are slightly different (different texture and thickness).
This is a Flak em tab

[Cryptato]

???? Fake tab ?

[Rene Chavez]

Different manufacturer's made these red tabs that is why you will find some slight variations in material most were wore by members in FLAK units. I believe that Italian SS volunteers were probably issued surplus of "Flak" tabs. I don't think that they were red tabs specifically made for the Italian SS but that is my opinion.

Rene Chavez
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[NickG]

???? Fake tab ?

That's that "wannabe" Italian SS uniform from the Hayes and Maguire book...
Actually a privately tailored uniform with LW style fake French cuffs, LW pattern pleated chest and unpleated skirt pockets, but with a collar more in style with the KM + added questionable Italian SS insignia. I thinks its a privately tailored uniform intended for a LW officer and post war restored to Italian SS.

I agree most likely LW Flak and Italian red SS tabs are essentially the same if German produced.

[Cryptato]

Thanks for the help guys...
There's always learning.......
Mario

[NickG]

Question for Dennis

Question for Dennis!
Why were these eagles (image = Dennis' collection) manufactured in gold bullion?
Is it because gold is the Italian officers collar (like cuff chevrons?)
and only later did they switch to Bullion silver (German style?)

The other one is a reproduction from Italy (Paki made?) ...also embroidered in Gold!
Was that the (early) standard for these?

[NickG]

Definately Gold! (better image of a similar cap size golden repro eagle)
So gold color on red was the standard for (early) officer's types?

[Dennis S]

Question for Dennis!
Why were these eagles (image = Dennis' collection) manufactured in gold bullion?
Is it because gold is the Italian officers collar (like cuff chevrons?)
and only later did they switch to Bullion silver (German style?)

The other one is a reproduction from Italy (Paki made?) ...also embroidered in Gold!
Was that the (early) standard for these?

Nick, I don't think mine are gold just some type of silver wire tarnished. The wire around the unissued tabs are actually silver and silver tarnished almost to black. If any gold was used it was probably just what the tailor used or preference by the Officer. All were private made under no control such as a RZM.

[Dennis S]

Definately Gold! (better image of a similar cap size golden repro eagle)
So gold color on red was the standard for (early) officer's types?

I think that eagle may be a new golden copy of a copy from the 70's of these
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