Questionable Schulterklappen, Tropenuniform on the E-Stand ?

[GAMS1]

French material was of course much used by the german Army .
Corduroy cotton cloth was used prewar and during the war by the KM also ,
in green or sand colour .
Corduroy cotton cloth was used also by the french Army prewar but also postwar ...
The breeches on E Bay are british 1939 , not french .
The wool on the single DAK strap is not french either .
2 types of wool are existing in 1940 in the french Army : Rough classical period wool and a more modern gabardine wool introduced in 1938 .
This is no one of them . the french gabardine cloth is finer than the back kaki cloth
of the DAK strap .
IMO more of a CS made wool with a structure in the cloth ?
Nick

[Tim O'Keefe]

My pleasure, gents.
The more I delve into french uniforms, the more I notice such things. Here is my newest discovery, check out these >>french cavalry breeches<<. I've seen some more of them and most were made in a smooth cotton corduroy fabric ranging from dark beige to olive green in colour. Looks strikingly like the fabric that most german tropical breeches were made of, scraps were also used as material for the tongues of shoulder straps, as can be seen in Tim's set of panzer straps in post #108. Cotton corduroy fabric has occasionally been seen before in german military use, mainly in some WW1 uniforms, but I think it is safe to assume that the WW2 tropical corduroy fabric too, was taken from french stocks and/or continued to be produced for the germans during occupation.

Best regards,
Andy

Thanks again. This has been discussed before when I had the crazy idea that the strap production timeline could be narrowed down somewhat by comparing the materials used, to their origin ? Hopefully some one will take up this study. There are 1940 dated corduroy breeches hence scraps/straps.

[Tim O'Keefe]

French material was of course much used by the german Army .
Corduroy cotton cloth was used prewar and during the war by the KM also ,
in green or sand colour .
Corduroy cotton cloth was used also by the french Army prewar but also postwar ...
The breeches on E Bay are british 1939 , not french .
The wool on the single DAK strap is not french either .
2 types of wool are existing in 1940 in the french Army : Rough classical period wool and a more modern gabardine wool introduced in 1938 .
This is no one of them . the french gabardine cloth is finer than the back kaki cloth
of the DAK strap .
IMO more of a CS made wool with a structure in the cloth ?
Nick

Agree corduroy from the French was used. Along with German material.

Thanks for the added info on French wool. And comment on the coat strap. The need for tropical uniforms increased rapidly so the Germans used any materials they could find.

[beachgrip]

Opinions welcome on these

https://attachment.outlook.live.net/...animation=true

Feel free to add any tropical straps original or fake anyone, as that is the purpose of this thread...

All comments welcome as always ?[/QUOTE]

Greetings Gents,
I am seeking your knowledgable opinion on these straps. I see what a minefield tropical shoulder straps are.

[Tim O'Keefe]

Hi beachgrip

Can not see the images ? Best to become an association member and post.

cheers
Tim

[beachgrip]

Hi beachgrip

Can not see the images ? Best to become an association member and post.

cheers
Tim

Thanks Tim,
I'm sorry they didn't come through. I had a lot of trouble trying to post the images.
I'll take your advice and become an associate member, then try again,
regards.

[Tim O'Keefe]

Here is a set of obvious fakes offered for sale currently. The materials are correct but the construction is not. There is a brief discussion of them in the link.

[Tim O'Keefe]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?t=1012936

[Tim O'Keefe]

And an undisputable original unissued strap to compare.

[beachgrip]

Opinions please. Tropical NCO shoulder boards.

Thanks Tim,
I'm sorry they didn't come through. I had a lot of trouble trying to post the images.
I'll take your advice and become an associate member, then try again,
regards.

Greetings Gentlemen.
I would be grateful for your opinions on these tropical shoulder boards, bought from a reputable US dealer.

[beachgrip]

Thanks Tim,
I'm sorry they didn't come through. I had a lot of trouble trying to post the images.
I'll take your advice and become an associate member, then try again,
regards.

Last two images.

[pauke]

Definitely originals. Nice to have if you buy them.

[Tim O'Keefe]

Hi Eric

Your membership fee will pay off easily if you collect tropical straps.

Your straps are great faded examples that any collector would be happy with.
Thanks for adding them to the thread

with kind regards
Tim

[beachgrip]

Hi Eric

Your membership fee will pay off easily if you collect tropical straps.

Your straps are great faded examples that any collector would be happy with.
Thanks for adding them to the thread

with kind regards
Tim

Thanks Guys,
That's great to hear. I bought them from Mike Davis at Virtual Grenadier, a real gentleman.
Regards,
Eric.

[Tim O'Keefe]

Here is a set of "original DAK Art straps" for sale on another dealers site.
One piece tops, the tresse has been removed. Would like to hear anyone's thoughts, LW Flak or fake ?