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    #61
    more on Roman eagles ...

    Originally posted by Leroy View Post
    This is a wooden eagle listed as Lot 2036 in the Thies auction No. 51 this weekend.
    I noted that the auction post #55/56 Roman style standard eagle didn't sell.
    OFW
    (below) Also noted elsewhere online ...
    "National Geographic News Published October 31, 2013
    Archaeologists excavating at the future site of a 16-story hotel in London have
    uncovered a 1,800-year-old statue of an eagle with a writhing serpent in its beak.

    The statue was carved in limestone from the Cotswolds and stands two feet (65 centimeters)
    tall. The right wing has broken off from the body, but otherwise the sculpture is intact.

    The foundations of a mausoleum were also found at the site. Experts have concluded that
    the sculpture once adorned the tomb of a Roman-era Londoner, likely a high-ranking official
    or a prosperous merchant.


    Life in Londinium

    At the time of the statue's carving, London was called Londinium. It was a walled city
    stretching along the Thames River, with a population of about 30,000. The mausoleum
    probably stood along a road leading out of the city, in a cemetery just outside the city walls.

    Today the neighborhood is near the Tower of London.
    Experts believe that the motif of the eagle devouring a serpent represents the triumph
    of good over evil. In Roman mythology, the eagle was a symbol of Jupiter, the chief god of
    the Roman pantheon.


    The eagle was also thought to carry the soul of a deceased emperor to the heavens,
    making it an appropriate subject for a tomb ornament.


    Historic Artwork
    The sculpture is an extraordinary piece of art—the finest work by a Roman-British sculptor
    ever uncovered in London. In its day, it would have been a public statement of wealth and
    culture, a sign that even in this distant outpost the deceased was familiar with the customs
    and beliefs of people in Rome.

    The statue's discovery was made during the final hours of an excavation that lasted several
    months. When archaeologists took the statue out of the ground, it was covered in mud.


    Preliminary cleaning revealed carving so crisp that the artifact seemed at first to be a garden
    ornament from the Victorian era.

    The Museum of London plans to exhibit this piece for the next six months. Continuing studies
    should reveal new insights into ancient cemeteries and tombs, and the life and death of Roman
    London's inhabitants."
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      #62
      another eagle with serpent ...

      Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post

      ...
      an eagle with a writhing serpent in its beak...
      Have in my own collection another eagle with serpent - a Mexican
      Golden Eagle perched on a prickly pear cactus devouring a snake.
      An older example, with design elements drawn in a European type;
      the eagle drawn in front view, and its overall appearance reflecting
      the French style. In later times changes were made such that now
      the eagle is seen in a side view instead of a front view.

      OFW
      (below) As cited OFW collection eagle with snake example.
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        #63
        What an excellent and interesting thread. Thank you so very much for your hard work. A fascinating subject, and wonderful collection OFW!

        Regards,

        Marcus

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          #64
          I would like to share my exemple of NIII eagle, as I ever know it, on my grandmother wall.
          Crown on the ead, orb at the bottom, + an oak leaves crow that surrounds it.



          P.S: Please tell me if I have to reduce the pic again, I would take a clear shot the next time I will see her.

          I think you would like this one, my favorite, picture with courtesy of french army museum, paris (http://www.musee-armee.fr/collection...-dembleme.html)



          OFW: I would like to send you a like to a french auction in a couple of months, they have a right faced eagle for sale, they believe it is from Napoleon the third, they could be wrong, so somebody may have a deal. I think you should at least glance an eye on it

          Cheers,
          Mathieu.
          Last edited by Staldion; 11-20-2013, 09:23 AM.

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            #65
            Oh.
            my.
            god.

            A real battle wounded eagle.

            By the way, the book I refer to is entitled:"The War Drama Of The Eagles" by Edward Fraser @ 1890. Worth reading and on-line at the kindle shop.
            Last edited by McCulloh; 11-20-2013, 03:51 PM.

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              #66
              more eagles welcome !!!

              Originally posted by Staldion View Post
              I would like to share my exemple of NIII eagle, as I ever know it,
              on my grandmother wall. Crown on the head, orb at the bottom,
              + an oak leaves crow that surrounds it. ...I would take a clear shot
              the next time I will see her. ...my favorite, picture with courtesy of
              french army museum, paris ...

              OFW: I would like to send you a like to a french auction ...they have
              a right faced eagle for sale, they believe it is from Napoleon the third...
              Cheers,
              Mathieu.
              Hello Mathieu:
              Nice eagle on wreath, thanks for the look. Yes,
              a more "clear shot" of your GM eagle would be
              great to see too. And I'm also looking forward to
              seeing the auction eagle. Likewise, thanks for the
              French Army Museum photos and web site link.

              OFW
              (below) Mathieu posted eagle (on left) & IMO my like eagle (on right).
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                #67


                The auctioned one.

                OFW > I figured that it is a model 1860, so Napoleon the third as described by the auction house, signed "M. A. MARION" and "A. BARRE. FCIT", from a provincial National Guard. Lenght 30 cm, wide 20 cm.

                Another one sold for 6500 euros for a complete exemple previously auctioned the 07/11/13 in Paris.
                Another did 3 300 € (under the estimation) because was cuted down (same auction).

                Good repro (XXe century) of m1804 did 900€ (3X the estimation)
                Good repro (XXe century) of m1815 DID 600€ (2X the estimation)


                Here is a link to the auction result. Please check it out to see plenty of amazing stuff from napoleonic time (include several swords and rifles given by the Emperor).

                http://www.thierrydemaigret.com/html...g=fr&npp=10000

                This auction house is like french Christie s. Or Herman in Germany.
                High prices but museum quality items.


                McCulloh > This one will not fly again, still in better shape than the poor man who was under the flag. I think it took several lives to bring it back.

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                  #68
                  Looks very similar to my eagle shown on post #9 with exception of left facing head and somewhat wider letter 'N'....

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                    #69
                    post #9 vs. post #67 eagle ...

                    Originally posted by spinnin4s View Post
                    [post #67] Looks very similar to my eagle shown on post #9
                    with exception of left facing head and somewhat wider letter 'N'....
                    Hello Fred:
                    Indeed so, at least per the front views. Per post #44, post #67
                    eagle appears to be c.1852, so post #9 is likely of the same era.

                    OFW
                    (below) This thread post #9 vs. post #67 eagle.
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                    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                      #70
                      This spelter eagle looks similar?? Any ideas ?.
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                          Nn
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                              Kk
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