This is the material that the sweat band is sewn to in the SS visor which has been attacked for no reason. Not a plastic strip as was assumed by some.Definately NOT what is used by Janke.
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A mint unissued original cap,it appears the material was turned inside out.
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More than a few makers used this material to strengthen the attachment between the sweatband and the base. Most notable (but not limited to) were Erel and Clemens Wagner. Almost all the time the material is a form of oilcloth. They are not always finished the same but still the same material. Just more of my 2 cents.
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Looks just like it should. I would assume and it looks like it is an oilcloth material. As John said nothing like Janke visors.Comment
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Forgive the moth damage and slightly blurry pic (hey it is the best I can to in 2 minutes
) but here is the backside of an Erel. Same material.
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Here is a better pic of a different Erel. Sorry guys but the oilcoth on Johnpics visor is identical.Comment
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Thank you NTZ, for me that cinches it.. no fake materials used whatsoever a 100% textbook cap.Comment
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Interesting John! It does look better now that you have it turned inside out. It may even be original material. Now, let me ask you this; If any other piece of that cap was sewn on inside out or upside down, would it still be ok with you. Or does that only go for the beading?Originally posted by John Pic View PostComment
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Brian, John's is not sewn inside out or upside down. It is in the correct way. He just showed the reverse side of it as I did.Originally posted by Brian Bonini View Post
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This one is so called inside out. But this was common. I have seen it on many original Erel’s. Ok many is a stretch but on more than a few.Comment
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Watch out Brian John is on the warpath
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And I am right by his side
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Correct NTZ the one on the cap I am purchasing is with the smooth side out and the other it appears to be reversed.
Now does anyone out there have info to share that is of value concerning this that would lead NTZ,myself,Saylef and others to think this is wrong? If so please post it, otherwise please eat your crow quietly.
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Hey someone is selling one of them there fake sweatbands on estand
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=242337Comment
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I think the "reed" attachment myth arose due solely to Janke. The bottom line is that Janke uses vinyl instead of oilcloth, and plastic (or composite) instead of a reed.
This system is far more prevalent than one would think. Halfar used it on their Ce-Ha Prima line, and the reed is actually covered by a blackened paper, which can look like vinyl, but isn't.
The "no-crosshatching" myth arose as a result of DDR visors and later BRD ones--this is due to the fact that they were made out of plastic, not vulkanfiber. I have quite a few civilian visors that are vulcanfiber WITHOUT crosshatching, as well as a few military and political. IMHO, cross-hatching was not integral to the manufacturing process of vulcanfiber (if it was, you would see it on the interior of Shakos)--it is simply there for grip, so you don't drop you prized Extramutze while putting it on/off.
PS--its been a long time since I have seen a Boris Vallejo painting--I think you need to post his "mate"!NEC SOLI CEDITComment
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