After reading a few books on the last stages of the war and the use of Hitler Youth troops, especially in the defence of Berlin, I was wondering if the M44 tunic would have ever been issued and badged as HJ?
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That would be an M43 tunic...I would say numbered slides worn upside down.
Glenn"A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"Comment
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I loved it so much I bought it, and the one that came with it showing the same soldier wearing a splinter camouflage hood, dated Jan. 1945:Originally posted by Zauberflöte View PostComment
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Great thread and photo's. I am trying to find out how early the M44 tunic went into service, both Heer and Luftwaffe. Would they have been worn in Normandy at the time of the D Day landings???Comment
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super
Love these photos. Some of them showing soldiers hamming
it up for the camera. Makes you feel that it wasn't That long ago.
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It could be possible I guess, although officially the M44 tunic was issued not sooner then Sept. 1944.Originally posted by skot44panzer View Post
Here is another one in a original 17x23 cm photo I have (I believe this is not a M43 tunic when you see the buttons and their distance and the lack of collar hooks,.. although he does seem to wear a Kragenbinde....?).Comment
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From last weekends fleamarkets (I wonder what is the story behind this foto... - any ideas?):Comment
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Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
Very interesting photo.
Since all the men have the national eagles removed from both the tunics and caps and with the use of the white (?) armband; I would suggest a photo taken somewhere in the summer of '45, ...some kind of security/surveillance group? Also note that they carry no spare ammo (pouches).
PS nice to see the wear of the NCO braid on the collar of the NCO.
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I agree...Post war
I agree...post war security of some kind ?? But post war service of some type for sure. Neat photo ! TomComment
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Oct12 - POW Portrait - 1 Depot O.G.P 163 France - Two POW's wearing M44 Jackets.Comment
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Great photo as usual Bill, man you have a deep collection!
Question.... Is the man 2nd from left Heer or Luftwaffe? the reason I ask is if he is Heer he is wearing a rare single button cap? I can't tell on my monitor. I would assume Luftwaffe due to the missing collar tabs.
Nice to see Officers wearing these tunics and also interesting that the two on the left are wearing Dutch clogs
Best Regards!
KevinLast edited by WEISNER; 10-11-2012, 11:42 PM.Comment
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Kevin,
You could be right that he is Luftwaffe as that would be my guess but it is almost impossible to tell from the photo...I think the one button cap would be the clue. All four are officers but none of them have litzen on their M43 caps. The two Heer Officers are the only ones with National roundels on their caps and rank insignia on their collars. So I assume that the two Officers to their right are Luftwaffe Officers without any insignia. You frequently see sandals or clogs being worn by POW's
All the Best,
Bill
Originally posted by WEISNER View PostComment
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Indeed another nice photo, and true, almost impossible to tell, but if you look carefully it appears to me that you can see a clear 'ghost' on his cap where once a LW eagle might have been...Originally posted by W Petz View Post
Please also bear in mind that also Heer (and SS for that matter, although I don't believe this is one) could already have worn a late war M44 tunic without collar tabs. I have seen that before.
Still I would put my money on this being a Luftwaffe soldier.
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A recent find simply showing a used M-44 in wear:Comment
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