honor goblet value

[Gary B]

I seem to recall the last estimate on a Thor goblet at around $30k.

Gary B

[chen]

My slight comment to Mr. Everett's price guide:

1. There are 10 Luft. pilots winning the diamond. I believe only Gollob, Lent, Marseille. Nowotny and Rudel got the "physical"goblet. They all got the 835 type except Nowotny's one.

2. The price range should start from $100,000 up to "wish-price" ( eg, Rudel's one)

3. Goblet price for Sword winner ( top end) should be around $60,000.

[Brian S]

Gents, as requested, an update on values:

Rarest (No change):

Fallschirmjager
Night fighter
Day fighter
Zerstoerer
Fighter/Bomber (Schlachtflieger)
Bomber
Transport
Recon
Weather

Price guide for '835':

Basic: $6000-$6500
German Cross recipient: $6500-$70000
RK recipient: $90000-$12,000
O/L: $17,000-$19,000
O/L/SW: $21,000-$24,000
O/L/SW/D: $65,000-$75,000

With document add $3000-$5000

Price guide for ALPAKA:

Basic: $4500 - $5000
German Cross recipient: $5000-$5500
RK recipient: $8000-$10,000
O/L: $13,000-$16,000
O/L/SW: $19,000-$21,000
0/L/SW/D: $35,000-$4500.

With document $2000-$3000


MIKE
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Mike, eStand prices or typical dealer prices?

[Jos L C]

Can't find my Rudel goblet anymore, wife cleaned the house ..


Jos.

[chen]

Can't find my Rudel goblet anymore, wife cleaned the house ..


Jos.

Check your bar. It may be there.

[Ron Weinand]

I just really like the name.

[Silver]

I just really like the name.

I guess paul galland......

[chen]

I just really like the name.

Very Nice!

[Ron Weinand]

It is Paul's, but still like the name. Also, from a US Veteran.

[BrianK]

I think Mike has done a great job on his pricing update.

Goblets have been going up over the past few years. I can recall, not too many years ago, when the price of an average Alpaca goblet seemed to have plateaued at about the $3K USD mark - and at that price the goblets just sat around. Too bad those days are gone. I think collectors have finally come to appreciate these non portable awards for what they represent, their scarcity and beauty.

Gary B

Why do you think rising prices are good for the collector? They are good for the seller, not the buyer.

[Gary B]

Why do you think rising prices are good for the collector? They are good for the seller, not the buyer.

I never stated I liked rising prices (but in some sense I do as we all should). I did state that collectors have finally come to appreciate these pieces which I believe were underapprciated for quite some time. Prices are coming more in line with the rarity/desirability of these pieces compared with other items of similar rarity.

ALL collectors (or their family members) will be sellers one day and I am sure at that time we/they will want to get top dollar for their items, who whould not. While some items are falsely driven up in price we as collectors should hope that items continue to increase in value, not only does it indicate a healthy market but it is good for all involved. Who wants to collect something that goes DOWN in value or does not even stay abreast with inflation.

This is the only collectible hobby I have been involved in where alot of the collectors think that items should stay cheap and that when a collector sells something he should give a break to another collector. I recall one person writing my friend that he should sell all of his items at the price he originally bought them at because that is the "collector thing" to do. REALLY? What other item/collectible would that apply to?

Gary B

[Thomas H]

Hi Michael,

Could you provide us with an update of your price list? The last one is from 22 months ago.

Although maybe not the right forum section, could you also say something about prices for the goblet document without possessing the physical goblet.

Regards, Thomas

[chrisje110]

From what I have seen this year on the E-stand, they are down for sure..

[Brian S]

Collectors have gotten much smarter and more discerning. Prices are not "down" as a rule.

It's all about the "who".

50 kills
Afrika
Western Front
Pilot
Battle of Britain
Battle of France
RK

I can assure you this example is worth more than a ROAG or a pilot with a lesser record, just because... Prices are now very dependent on pedigree.

How many have you seen on eStand with a similar pedigree in the past three years sell cheap? None.

[chrisje110]

Brian, I am not disagreeing with you on the rare ones, my comment was more focussed on the common ones.

Btw here is a 50+ kills one for sale for a looooong time at Winklers Shop. Its not selling. There will be less and less people who shell out 4k-10k+ on a Honor Goblet over the years (less collecters) so its logical that prices will go down in my opinion.

https://www.history-shop.de/katalog/...GEN_93119.html

Chris