Dr. Mengele Passport Found

[birdie]

Time traveler? LOl

I believe you stumbled on something sir! Great work vetting these documents!

[alexanderautogr]

I believe you stumbled on something sir! Great work vetting these documents!

Josef Mengele - Nazi butcher, "Angel of Death"...and time traveller.

Sorry I edited that line out of my post before you posted your artwork!

[Hoss]

eer he changed his tie, aren't two cut from a full photograph?

[birdie]

Thanks

Josef Mengele - Nazi butcher, "Angel of Death"...and time traveller.

Sorry I edited that line out of my post before you posted your artwork!

Phew , thought I was nuts..After I posted i reread your post and it wasn't there

Keep up the excellent work, enjoying your investigation.

[Jelle M.]

Wait till you see my upcoming auction:

[alexanderautogr]

Fake!

Wait till you see my upcoming auction:

Fake. His name was Jesus H. Christ.

[bodes]

Fake. His name was Jesus H. Christ.

No, I believe it's Jesus Frickin' H. Christ.....Bodes

[tanker]

Please, lets keep it focused on the real issue here. When the thread turns to these type of previous post, it only make it look silly and really runs the risk of being closed. Ron

[Jos L C]

After the explanation and if you study the pics it turns out that the stuff is fake, I don't see what and why secret experts can change this fact.

I would stick to a helmet, cap and EK 2, which seems to be difficult enough sometimes.
Most exotic items turn out to be fake, which isn't new.
Maybe Snyder's Treasure might be interested in this lot, he's specialized in Hitler, Goering and other famous person stuff..
Maybe he was the seller ?

Jos.

[eldenwaff]

Very shameful fiasco for CG, as is often to be expected.
Not sure which is worse, this or his attempt to cajole Boyle into lying about the HR. He always has an excuse for everything, and anyone who questions his motives is just a jealous hater.

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes for a single second Craig, and its really hard to see what your obvious case of egomania is based on. You have an impressive resume at first glance, but it doesn't take much digging before the foul stench of greed, lies, condensation and disdain for others becomes over-powering. I think you are delusional and have low self esteem, which might partially explain your fixation on notorious Nazi personalities [financial considerations notwithstanding].

Considering fat Rick's professed disdain of all things Nazi , I'm wondering why Pawn Stars is still taking the risk of keeping a guy like you as a walk-in "expert".

[Hoss]

Please, lets keep it focused on the real issue here. When the thread turns to these type of previous post, it only make it look silly and really runs the risk of being closed. Ron

Yea no kidding like the Himmler papers history thread I was looking forward to that, where is it?

Eric

[Theodor]

The fact Craig will not provided a single photograph of this "authentic" passport...

He did! A brilliant photo, taken to remain in history, to crown Wikipedia and much more!

...and just for the record, another one, important and historical, too, from 30 years ago

[Seigfried]

Seeming as craig is a partial owner of waf he ain't going anywhere and I wouldn't be surprised if this thread does just disappear just remember all the other ones that were locked about him and of others slowly I think this forum is being run by dealers for collectors not collectors for collectors

Is he? Well regardless of that your other comments are pertinent. Last year there was a thread in which a dealer (and Forum Sponsor) complained that he had been ripped off by an ebay seller over an RAF helmet. He was judged not to have been by all the thread contributors and argued that he was right and we were all wrong and knew nothing! Well the thread was deleted.

[Obersalzberg]

Yea no kidding like the Himmler papers history thread I was looking forward to that, where is it?

Eric

It became too sensitive for these meek souls.

[TxGauleiter]

So, let me get this straight, Craig Gottlieb comes to the forum, stating with absolute conviction and firm authority of how above question his latest piece is.

First of all, you have to love the tone of authority this statement was:

...It's already been looked at by other experts...

looked at by OTHER experts..Craig the "expert" looked at it, and then let other experts look at it.

...whether you like it or not, I know my stuff with respect to documents, and given the provenance that comes with it, I know it's real.

Hey, collectors, whether you like it or not, he knows his stuff! Oh, and he knows its real! No scientific analysis needed (or wanted)! He "knows its real!"

...Part of being a competent researcher is being well-connected and knowing who to ask about things. Thankfully, my public work has opened doors for me

He is a competent researcher, as evidenced by his claim to be a competent researcher.

I've spent 3 months researching this piece...

He spent THREE MONTHS researching this piece! In the future, when he says he has spent months researching something, remember this!

“People asked me how I know when something’s real, and I have a hard time explaining it. I just know. People forge documents all the time, but over the years I’ve learned how to look at the paper, the inks, the printing styles ... This was a self-authenticating artifact.” - Craig Gottlieb

HAHAHA!! Craig just has a sense about these things. He can't quite put his finger on how, he was just blessed with this gift. He "just knows."

IMO the passport is a fugazy.

Then, when real acknowledged experts call it bogus, and list example after example of why they believe it is a fake, Craig suddenly backtracks:

...Anyway, I won't be conducting "live research" on this forum, but will reveal my findings when I am done.

You will reveal your findings when you are done? I thought you "just knew" it was real? I thought you spent 3 months researching this?

And, trust me, I have a much bigger story to break if it turns out to be a post-Mengele forgery (I personally hope it is not...)

I love how this sentence leads off with, "trust me". (yeah, I trust you!)

If it turns out to be a forgery????? are you kidding me? how many posts did you lead with telling us it couldn't be a forgery?? Now your firm authoritative conviction that it was real has turned into "hoping it is not" a forgery??? Where did your conviction suddenly go? What happened to "just knowing" it was real?

Let me be clear, again. I'm conducting research on this set of false-identity papers, at my own pace and time, using my own resources, and without agenda.

Oh, after you claimed it was real and it was debunked, you try to salvage your pride and vanity by claiming to now conduct your own research! I thought you said you spent 3 months researching it, and you knew it was real!!

I've spent 3 months researching this piece

This was actually hilarious to read.

I am embarrassed for him. It is amazing to me that he is allowed to continuously come here and do this again and again.