The Floch interview regarding the Pink/Birch smocks

[Tim O'Keefe]

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That we know of anyway. There is a lot of mint SS camo around. Did it all originate from a few old stashes or was it all vet bring backs? When I got my Oakleaf which came from the old Tony Gordon collection there were 3 other brand new condition ones.

There were ss "stashes" found post war. Most were in Germany. Why would you find a German made horde in Eastern Europe ? The Brick smocks are not German made, both sides agree with that. However the horde from the depot near Prague did have thousands of worn issued un-badged tropenhelms, Saharian's and those "tan" helmets

Ahh Tony Gordon, yes he had connections with Floch on more than one occasion.
Remember the Beehive sidecap cache and what happened

[Vladislav]

Saying Minsk Film did not exist does not make it go away, no matter how many times that falsehood is parroted here. A paid researcher confirmed the enterprise did exist, under that name. That is according to Igor Avdeev, a Belarus film historian, who was contacted as part of paid research into the stamps.

This may help jog folks memories - it has been posted three times in this thread and in others.

"This is information is from the Russian Film researcher in Moscow that I hired. Minsk Film studio did exist before WW2. When the Germans occupied the city they captured the studios intact and used the equipment to make war and propaganda films under that name. These films still exist in the Minsk film archives along with left behind German documents , etc. When the Soviets retook the city they started operations again and making films . Whether this new film operation still used the "Minsk Film " name or operated without an official name is unknown. At some point in 1946 (I might be able to get the exact date) their operation was named "Belarus Film" . In 1960 (or maybe as early as 1957) another company making documentaries called "Minsk Film " began.

If someone wants to refute this research that's fine; pay a Belarus film historian / researcher and please objectively post the findings. Minsk Film existed before WWII, and was renamed sometime in 1946 after the war. It resumed it's Minsk Film name sometime later.

s/f Robert

During the war there could be no studios except the occupation.The Germans worked on the national consciousness and stamps must be in the Belarusian language.The specifics of filming popular science films does not imply a costume.

[Daniel.S]

First we had Lorenzo saying he found 50+ SS covers in a clothing company in the 80this..and had unlimited supply over the years.

Then you have Floch saying he found 100 + smocks in the 80this....still selling them..

[Stive]

During the war there could be no studios except the occupation.The Germans worked on the national consciousness and stamps must be in the Belarusian language.The specifics of filming popular science films does not imply a costume.

+5 During conducting military operations to transfer military property! with the unclear purposes in a national film studio in the occupied territory for which this war crime it is possible to get under tribunal. It was better anoraks сс for guerrillas at once to transfer

[RobertE]

First we had Lorenzo saying he found 50+ SS covers in a clothing company in the 80this..and had unlimited supply over the years.

Then you have Floch saying he found 100 + smocks in the 80this....still selling them..

Don't know what Lorenzo has to do with the brick smocks (nothing). Don't forget Horsetrainers haul of 100 + mint and unfinished SS helmet covers in 2017 - I'd say that counts for those that are counting undisturbed hauls of SS material all from one spot.

Floch is out of this silly game. He had one ratty smock left out of the 100 smocks he originally had for sale, which was draped over a chair behind the table (according to those that saw it). It's not like he's still actively selling the baled smocks - whatever profit he made from these in sale and trade was over decades ago.

s/f Robert

[rob NL]

Next year I am interviewing Kai Winkler.

Let me, please?

[RobertE]

Please do, but open a separate thread so it doesn't confuse the brick smock discussion anymore than it already is!

You tilt at that windmill, and we'll work this one...

s/f Robert

[nutmeg]

During the war there could be no studios except the occupation.The Germans worked on the national consciousness and stamps must be in the Belarusian language.The specifics of filming popular science films does not imply a costume.

The Germans called it Minsk film when they operated it during the occupation. The name has nothing to do with the later 1960 company that adopted the same name Minsk film. The Minsk film 1947 marking has NOTHING to do with the 1960 popular science film company.

[Glenn McInnes]

Je-sus,don't you guys ever sleep?


Anyone want to bet how many pages this one will ramble on for? Maybe I should start a poll.







Glenn

[Tom Kibler]

Je-sus,don't you guys ever sleep?


Anyone want to bet how many pages this one will ramble on for? Maybe I should start a poll.







Glenn

HA!!!! that's great!

[kammo man]

Please close this thread about the FAKE PINK Smocks.

[John Pic]

Je-sus,don't you guys ever sleep?


Anyone want to bet how many pages this one will ramble on for? Maybe I should start


Glenn

125.5 is my guess.

[Vladislav]

The Germans called it Minsk film when they operated it during the occupation. The name has nothing to do with the later 1960 company that adopted the same name Minsk film. The Minsk film 1947 marking has NOTHING to do with the 1960 popular science film company.

Did the German occupation authorities use a small Studio that was filming insects?do you believe it?1938-1960. The Minsk Studio newsreel and documentary films. 1960-1968. Minsk film Studio of popular science and documentary films. 1968. Joined the film Studio "Belarusfilm".

[RobertE]

Yes, feel free to close this thread about probably ORIGINAL smocks until more evidence surfaces. This has become circular (again).

s/f Robert

[kammo man]

So FAKE stamps on a FAKE smock made by Flock.
Nothing much left to say.
Case closed.