Camo coming from Lorenzo - Helmet cover

[Felix]

Point taken, I am against this though. He was expelled for a reason and this is not the place for him to explain anything as there is nothing to explain. Things are quite clear.

He had the chance to share his opinion and instead he used this to put up a smoke screen and install the mirrors using all sorts of nonesense and personal attacks.

That's how I look at it.

Cheers

I strongly disagree with you with in respect to who you are, and you know that Fritz. This cant be solved with a an "in between dealer thing".

Lorenzo must answer for him self and its quite obvious if we are going to get forward. Stop talking to Bnz 42. The person who needs to defend himself is Lorenzo - and because of this reason he should be allowed to do so, and because its the only reasonable thing.

This will only become another p---ing match if we dont hear from the one on trial. Wouldnt you agree?

//Felix

[Fritz]

You are worse than any faker !

Of course, what else?

[Disco Partisan]

but that's it

[Jeff V]

Lorenzo had an opportunity to defend himself. Let face reality, no one caught faking or distributing fakes ever admits to it. They deny, try and confuse and so on, which is what happened before. He will not be coming back.
As far as the personal insults on here, we have let this circus go on for a bit but everyone should tone it down.

[Fritz]

Lorenzo must answer for him self and its quite obvious if we are going to get forward. Stop talking to Bnz 42. The person who needs to defend himself is Lorenzo - and because of this reason he should be allowed to do so, and because its the only reasonable thing.

What I mean is that he is not exactly on trial. That is as far as I am concerned.

He would just use the opportunity to cause a lot of ado as to how green with envy we are and this and that without providing a single answer.

The way I look at it he is in a dilemma: He just can't answer your questions honestly.

I reckon you see a glimpse of hope, there just is none.

And of course I do respect your opinion - I always did! I just wanted to share my point of view.

[Fritz]

Lorenzo had an opportunity to defend himself. Let face reality, no one caught faking or distributing fakes ever admits to it. They deny, try and confuse and so on, which is what happened before. He will not be coming back.
As far as the personal insults on here, we have let this circus go on for a bit but everyone should tone it down.

I do agree, fully.

[Felix]

I want Lorenzo back to be able to present what he thinks is evedence and the rest to provide counter evidence so this can be settled once and for all. I will post the cover of mine tomorrow that I traded in with Lorenzo for all to judge and to comment on. It will be fair. I want Lorenzo to personally answer and give evidence and THAT is going to be met with evidence from knowledgeable people like Frits and Kammo man. The trial goes on and will end when its clear.

Disco 42 should not take part in this!! Comprende?



With respect
//Felix

[BenVK]

i do not know what "bnz" has ever did to get himself banned and it's irrelevant to this thread . You change the original subject to personal attacks only because you have nothing to say about the helmet covers that you claimed to be fake. It is clear - you have nothing to say. Period. Done. Full stop. I tell you man Your activity is pure criminal as you with kammo man destroyed Lorenzo reputation for no reason, his investment on his collection, and his 7-year work on his books. You are worse than any faker !

Oh dear, do you feel alienated, unfairly judged, discriminated against?

That's such a shame but as you like to quote, I will give you a quote.

What goes around comes around.

[Felix]

Lorenzo had an opportunity to defend himself. Let face reality, no one caught faking or distributing fakes ever admits to it. They deny, try and confuse and so on, which is what happened before. He will not be coming back.
As far as the personal insults on here, we have let this circus go on for a bit but everyone should tone it down.

I disagree with you. Lorenzo should reprent himself. Not by any other party. I there a continued disussion he should answer himself and not by an third party! Whats that? Not the way I would like things settled or taken to ultimate level of knowledge. We need to deal with this matter and straighten it out once and for all. A lot of collectors are out there with questions. The communty owes them that. I want that as well. The one on trial should defend all the way and face the true outsome. Thats the best for all.

//Felix

[Felix]

What I mean is that he is not exactly on trial. That is as far as I am concerned.

He would just use the opportunity to cause a lot of ado as to how green with envy we are and this and that without providing a single answer.

The way I look at it he is in a dilemma: He just can't answer your questions honestly.

I reckon you see a glimpse of hope, there just is none.

And of course I do respect your opinion - I always did! I just wanted to share my point of view.

I dont agree with you, but as you know I respect your opinion. Please read my next response if the mod "Jeff v" has not edited it.

Cheers
/7Felix

[Jeff V]

I want Lorenzo back to be able to present what he thinks is evedence and the rest to provide counter evidence so this can be settled once and for all. I will post the cover of mine tomorrow that I traded in with Lorenzo for all to judge and to comment on. It will be fair. I want Lorenzo to personally answer and give evidence and THAT is going to be met with evidence from knowledgeable people like Frits and Kammo man. The trial goes on and will end when its clear.

Disco 42 should not take part in this!! Comprende?



With respect
//Felix

Post your cover, keep in mind the guilty rarely testify in their own trials. Having Lorenzo here working a smokescreen and trying to confuse matters is not going to give any clarity to what he did.

[Palmenmuster]

Post your cover, keep in mind the guilty rarely testify in their own trials. Having Lorenzo here working a smokescreen and trying to confuse matters is not going to give any clarity to what he did.

This is like a kindergarten in my opinion. We have here so-called "experts" giving you the facts. Do your homework and study the topic.
Tom

[Felix]

Post your cover, keep in mind the guilty rarely testify in their own trials. Having Lorenzo here working a smokescreen and trying to confuse matters is not going to give any clarity to what he did.

Jeff V, with respect, do you think I defend Lorenzo? I could call you names because of that, but I will not. Have you gone through the posts I have made for the last 10 years? You should know where I stand. What I think would be the best and most fair is if Lorenzo would defend him self. Not by other people.

Expel me because I offended a moderator, please do that if you wish.

I want this to be solved as everyone else.

Cheers
//Felix

[BenVK]

Do your homework and study the topic.
Tom

So what is your opinion Tom?

[Anderson-Alex]

My gut tells me lorenzo is probably already here