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    #166
    Except I don't make fake SS camouflage items, I have only had friends hearts broken by these fakes.
    Lorenzo clearly believes his fake covers are real.

    The mis direction of the angle of cloth being cut is just a diversion to the guts of that has went on over the last 10ishyears.

    Please remember 10 years ago.
    Everyone had loads of money and SS was hot as a collectable.
    The E-stand here was on fire.
    It was loaded up with all types of quality and shoddy items.
    Everything sold fast.
    Making Fake helmet covers was good business.
    Guys wanted their stuff and not loads of questions were asked.
    People like PVL noticed there was an endless supply from Lorenzo.
    Red Flag.
    Fritz began connecting the dots.
    When I met Lorenzo in person and he offered me my pick of 3 covers I connected the dots really fast.

    Its actually really sad state of affairs for the SS helmet cover community which caught a break when the late war oaks of the hoard was found.

    I personally want whats right for the community as I like to know my collection has real pieces and that makes me happy, fakes make me sick.
    Its something I am sure we all share.
    And there is NOT 1 person here who has not been taken to the floor by a fake and learned the hard way.

    Is it a battle between good and bad ?

    You decide.

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      #167
      So is the Norway cover in #151 genuine, or not ??

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        #168
        Originally posted by Palmenmuster View Post
        Why do you ask? Is the present picture not clear enough for you? Do you have any opinion from the picture? I understand why you dont want to answer - your theory goes down the drain.
        Tom
        Yes. The picture is of no use. I told you how to take it properly, something you can't bring yourself to do for whatever reason.

        You are very welcome not to share my observations. I know you are a smart man and have your own conclusions which seem to differ from mine. All ok.

        I certainly cannot see my theory going down the drain, the opposite is actually the case.

        Cheers

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          #169
          Originally posted by SMP View Post
          So is the Norway cover in #151 genuine, or not ??
          It is IMO, the picture is of no use though. It will look much different when not on a helmet that had been skipped forward and with the spring being pulled, not pulling the material together.

          However, even if this is so - which I doubt - it would be a very rare exception. Lorenzo's covers and caps all have this.

          Cheers

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            #170
            A picture of the cover as requested would tell us whether this is a rare exception or the photo provided is misguiding.

            Cheers

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              #171
              Tom,
              this cover is a nice original, I owned myself in the past two exemples like this, great cover.
              If I'm not wrong they were delivered after war in Norvegien to the Home Defence corp, right?

              Originally posted by Palmenmuster View Post
              Hi Peter, I will show you a cover From Norway with rock solid history dating back to may 1945. This cover has the left part cut diagonal, the senter- and right parts are horizontal cut. This cover is not a pre-war, neither a late war cover.

              That means by Fritz and Owens statements that this cover is fake. So will this cover kill the cat? BTW I find your cap promising, needs and hands-on inspection as always.
              Best regards, Tom

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                #172
                Seams you dont understand, but you are like a finger in the A... on this forum, you spitting and offend often personally all people here on Waf, collectors and dealers that disagree you or have something you dont like. People , expecially dealers prefer dont have problems due bad advertising on this forum, where are many customer.
                Did you notice here on WAF real big /midle collectors stpped to post theyr stuffs? did you ask yourself why? people like you done this to this forum.
                This is the sad true Owen, and people know that perfectely...many exemples over the years.



                Originally posted by kammo man View Post
                in all fairness when I informed Bill Shea about his bad covers he removed them immediately.
                When I informed Collectors Guild they were removed immediately.

                When I see them in personal friends collections the owned pauses and realizes he's been had.
                There are many many covers.
                More than 50.
                I can't give number to caps as I never tracked those.

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                  #173
                  Your thriller fantasy is incredible, please return back by your dream world..

                  sorry Lorenzo,
                  there is no personal attack.
                  I have met you 2 times and you are a charming guy........who plays people.
                  I just seen through your natural Show charm and added 2 and 2 together.
                  Take it for what it is.
                  In England it is called "fair Cop Guv".


                  Yes, also fake accusations without proofs is a crime...

                  Originally posted by kammo man View Post
                  sorry Lorenzo,
                  there is no personal attack.
                  I have met you 2 times and you are a charming guy........who plays people.
                  I just seen through your natural Show charm and added 2 and 2 together.
                  Take it for what it is.
                  In England it is called "fair Cop Guv".
                  owen

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                    #174
                    Originally posted by Lorenz View Post
                    Tom,
                    this cover is a nice original, I owned myself in the past two exemples like this, great cover.
                    If I'm not wrong they were delivered after war in Norvegien to the Home Defence corp, right?
                    Correct.
                    Tom

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                      #175
                      Owen, have you read all the posts since you were logged in last time or do you ignore my questions? Please check out page 10 - posts #139, 140, 141 and 143. I would like your comments, Fritz doesn't dare to answer them.
                      Best regards, Tom

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                        #176
                        Originally posted by Lorenz View Post
                        Seams you dont understand, but you are like a finger in the A... on this forum, you spitting and offend often personally all people here on Waf, collectors and dealers that disagree you or have something you dont like. People , expecially dealers prefer dont have problems due bad advertising on this forum, where are many customer.
                        Did you notice here on WAF real big /midle collectors stpped to post theyr stuffs? did you ask yourself why? people like you done this to this forum.
                        This is the sad true Owen, and people know that perfectely...many exemples over the years.

                        Much could be sad on the above in other directions, but an suspension is not worth it

                        As to dealers, they are probably shaky and keep their mouth shut as to not getting mass returns.

                        As to Owen, i and many other collectors find him to be an real asset to this forum, especially in the cammo section.

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                          #177
                          Originally posted by Palmenmuster View Post
                          s, Fritz doesn't dare to answer them.
                          Best regards, Tom

                          Incorrect. You have just failed in opening a new thread as these questions you were asking have got nothing to do with this thread.

                          I asked you to start a new thread with all your questions that don't belong here. Yet another thing you couldn't bring yourself to do. In fact your choice was not to care. And instead you would keep on going abusing this thread for asking questions that don't belong here.

                          Cheers

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                            #178
                            I dont see nice Camo stuffs in the SS Camo section by years...enjoy

                            Originally posted by Daniel.S View Post
                            Much could be sad on the above in other directions, but an suspension is not worth it

                            As to dealers, they are probably shaky and keep their mouth shut as to not getting mass returns.

                            As to Owen, i and many other collectors find him to be an real asset to this forum, especially in the cammo section.

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                              #179
                              The thread is closed again. Any new items to discuss open a new thread and leave the personalities out of it.
                              Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.

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