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**John Pic** · 02-13-2010, 03:05 AM

Just got home and saw this...Fantastic Andre ! Now that is a one looker..Awesome !

**Shaun Winkler** · 02-13-2010, 03:59 AM

Andre that is by far your 2nd best ever grouping ! Only Schumacher can top this one

Only kidding. It is a fantastic grouping to a very brave man who gave up his holiday to die fighting next to his men. A vey special man he must have been.

I hope this one stays safely in your collection for years to come.

Congrats!!!

when can Jacques and I come see it ?

Regards
Shaun

**jotuntroll** · 02-13-2010, 04:19 AM

WOW, what a unique Westland group of bravery and tragedy.
If there was a waffen SS museum this belongs there.
I hope to study the lot in a book in the future

Thanks for sharing Andre!

**Ohlau** · 02-13-2010, 04:57 AM

I have the question - Do we know where Herr Lotze was buried ?
As I understand the body was sent back to his family ?

**mathluft** · 02-13-2010, 05:12 AM

I can only say, WOW WOW and WOW ! ! ! !! ! !! !! !

**JamesDonnelly** · 02-13-2010, 05:37 AM

Lovely grouping, well done.

**DaveG** · 02-13-2010, 06:49 AM

Did he die instantly from his wounds? Not questioning the authenticity of the uniform in any way, but was it customary in the German army or SS to send back the blood stained uniform of a fallen officer to his family? I can see sending the decorations off the tunic and other personal effects back to the family but it would, by American standards anyway, be highly unorthodox to send a blood soaked piece of clothing back to grieving loved ones. The reason I asked if he died instantly was to also make the point that had he been wounded, the first thing the doctors would have removed would have been his tunic, and you would think in the chaos of a front line medical outpost, it would have been amazing that the bloody tunic, once removed would have stayed with the body, but again I know nothing of the organization and practices of such facilities. Makes this tunic all the more rare I suppose to have defied the odds of survival.

Best Regards,

Dave

**JRA** · 02-13-2010, 10:18 AM

Lotze

Andre,

an amazing piece of history which is well researchable. It's one of the best groupings I have seen ever.
Congrats!

Jeroen

**Kreager** · 02-13-2010, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by BenVK View Post

In regards to the schirmmutze, was he in the regular Army before joining the SS?

Good point Ben.

Not questioning the cap at all, it's fantastic to see a Heer visor used by the SS.

**AndreM** · 02-13-2010, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by BenVK View Post

In regards to the schirmmutze, was he in the regular Army before joining the SS?

That was interesting for me too.

**HJ12** · 02-13-2010, 11:12 AM

Very impressive

Dave

**The Other Brian** · 02-13-2010, 11:22 AM

C

ongratulations andre!!!

What an excellent acquisition.

Best regards,

Brian

**Glowlight** · 02-13-2010, 11:39 AM

Great group and as other have said thanks for posting when most would not. Hopefully the group will always stay together as it is "what" collecting is all about; history. Thanks again!!

**SLIM** · 02-13-2010, 12:09 PM

andre that is the best ss grouping i have ever seen !! truely exceptional

**sturmbannfuhrer** · 02-13-2010, 12:20 PM

When you see a pic of a real SS tunic such as this one, you can just tell it is real by the look of it. Fantastic set..

J T

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