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    #481
    Originally posted by TonyS View Post
    Hi DTS,

    Good to see you still around and hopefully still collecting?

    I remember your Italian poster was over on the M-C-F Forum. I think I gave basically the same answer as above.

    If I had my way I would have a bunch of those fakers shot so it would send a clear message to the rest. Yeah call me a Nazi if you want...
    I am indeed still around, but barely collecting. More window-shopping than anything else.

    Miss the old Forum. I still don't understand what happened and why it disappeared.

    I, too, would happily have the fakers shot -- but in the knees first. It seems there are so many now -- it's like half the stuff is fake, and the other half is thrice over-priced.

    Thanks for remembering me.

    Darron

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      #482
      Hi,

      a small post about a confirmed fake french SS postcard.

      I don't know how many postcard were made for the french Waffen-SS, at least i found one "Notre Waffen-SS" / "Our Waffen-SS" postcard (the mortar section - don't know if the whole serie was made for France or only a few selected ones), and one color postcard "La Waffen-SS t'appelle ! Protège ta patrie" (Anton drawing).

      The Anton postcard is pictured on the "Axe & Alliés" special issue n°1, and i own an original too.
      (i will ask Tony if he can insert picture of my original postcard and the HH fake)

      I found not less than 3 identical fakes.

      - an owner on the ACTL messageboard
      http://actl.forumgratuit.fr/t363-car...ta-patrie#1973

      - a current auction on Delcampe
      http://www.delcampe.net/item.php?id=...75384f230eed2f

      - a... past auction on Hermann Historica (!)
      Item 7098, auction 59, April 15-16, 2010

      I'm in contact with the owner of the first two postcards, and i will probably send an email to Wolfgang at HH.

      On the three postcards, only the one on Delcampe is sold "as if". The card is not altered, anyone can check if it is an original (the seller was contacted today, i gave her all the infos telling her that with her help this well known repro is now identified).
      The first and the third postcards are clearly modified to HIDE the suspicious proofs that they are fake :
      - someone wrote at the back of the first postcard (but in an unsual way for the WWII), and a gentle stamp is "hiding" the circle with "63" in it...
      - someone used an acid to make disappear the circle and the "63" of the HH postcard !

      How to spot the fake ?

      - the fake as a... printed horizontal fold (! probably on the original used) on the recto
      - the fake as circle with "63" on the top corner on the right !

      Other differences :
      blank/white margin : more large on the fake
      color of the text on recto : less bright on the fake
      length of the text on verso : less wide on the fake
      color of the text on verso : darker on the fake

      See You

      Vince

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        #483
        Hi,

        a "funny" scan taken from "Les Cahiers Français", a propaganda monthly booklet printed in UK during the war for the french occupied territories (1942-1944).

        The page is taken from the April 1944 booklet.
        It shows an original french Waffen-SS poster (the famous one with the panzer IV), and the way some french people modified it.

        The original text :

        "Si tu veux que la France vive, tu combattras dans la Waffen-SS contre le bolchevisme"
        ("If you want that the France lives, you will fight in the Waffen-SS against the bolchevism")



        The modified text :

        "Si tu veux que la France vive, tu combattras contre le boche"
        ("If you want that the France lives, you will fight against the Jerry")

        This is not known if the modified poster was really done (a good way to be taken to prison, and sometimes to become an hostage) in occupied France.

        See You

        Vince

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          #484
          Photos for Vince.....

          Fake ACTL.
          Attached Files

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            #485
            Fake Delcampe
            Attached Files

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              #486
              Fake HH.
              Attached Files

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                #487
                Authentic.
                Attached Files

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                  #488
                  Hello Tony,

                  what about this one?

                  Thanks
                  Attached Files

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                    #489
                    Just wanted to say congratulations to Harm on the new book...

                    Looking to purchase a copy in the next few days

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                      #490
                      Yes, can't wait too

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                        #491


                        Copertina: http://imageshack.us/f/828/manifesti.jpg/

                        Manifesti e grafica nella Waffen-SS europea
                        Carteles y dibujos de las Waffen-SS europeas
                        Plakater og grafikk i det europeiske Waffen-SS
                        Posters and graphics in the european Waffen-SS
                        Posters en afbeeldingen in de europese Waffen-SS
                        Plakate und Grafiken in die europäische Waffen-SS
                        Affiches et graphismes dans la Waffen-SS européenne

                        Quest'interessante opera offre per la prima volta un'ampia raccolta relativa alle diverse rappresentazioni grafiche che, prodotte dagli uffici di propaganda e dai vari Kriegsberichter delle Waffen-SS, vennero impiegate sui fronti della Seconda Guerra Mondiale. Il volume analizza e raccoglie dettagliatamente le biografie e le pregevoli realizzazioni degli artisti Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjölnir", Hermann Otto Hoyer ed Ernst Krause. Nel volume sono presenti anche opere dei seguenti artisti: Louis Emile "Lou" Manche, Pieter Pouwels, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff "Gard", José Bertau, Birger Cranner. Il fine di questo volume è quello di esaminare in maniera scientifica i documenti iconografici che vennero eseguiti, prevalentemente tra il 1941 e il 1945, da qualificati illustratori di differenti nazioni, per far arruolare centinaia di migliaia di giovani europei nelle SS combattenti, documenti peraltro di squisito valore artistico. Non si spaventi il lettore che non conosce l'italiano: il volume è eminentemente iconografico e racccoglie i manifesti, i disegni e le illustrazioni dedicate alle unità combattenti europeee delle Waffen-SS. Indice dell'opera: Editoriale di Federico Prizzi, Prefazione dello storico Ernesto Zucconi, Presentazione di Harm Wulf. Biografie degli artisti: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjölnir", Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich. Manifesti e grafica della Waffen-SS europea: Germania, Danimarca, Lettonia, Estonia, Francia, Fiandre, Galizia, Gran Bretagna, Ungheria, Croazia Bosnia, Italia, Finlandia, Norvegia, Olanda, Russia, Vallonia.

                        This interesting work offers for the first time, a large collection of propaganda that was produced by the various SS-Kriegsberichter and offices of the Waffen-SS, that was used on all the European fronts of the Second World War. The book analyzes and collects the detailed biographies and valuable achievements of Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir", Hermann Otto Hoyer and Ernst Krause. It also features works by the following artists: Emile Louis "Lou" Manche, Pouwels Pieter, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff "Gard", José Bertau, Birger Cranner. The purpose of this volume is to examine in a scientific manner, how these documents were created, mostly between 1941 and 1945, by skilled illustrators of different nations, to persuade hundreds of thousands of young Europeans to enlist in the Waffen-SS. The book also documents the exquisite artistic value of the propaganda. The reader does not need to know Italian, as the book is eminently photographic in nature. It brings together posters, drawings and illustrations devoted to the combat units of the European Waffen-SS. Index: Editorial by Federico Prizzi, Foreword by historian Ernesto Zucconi, Presentation by Harm Wulf. Biographies of artists: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir", Wigforss Finn, Wolfgang Willrich. Posters and graphics of the european Waffen-SS: Germany, Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, France, Flanders, Galicia, Great Britain, Hungary, Bosnia and Croatia, Italy, Finland, Norway, Netherlands, Russia, Wallonia.

                        Diese interessante Arbeit bietet erstmals eine große Sammlung von Propaganda-Material an, welches von den verschiedenen SS-Kriegsberichtern und den Büros der Waffen-SS produziert wurde und an allen europäischen Fronten des Zweiten Weltkrieges Verwendung fand. Das Buch analysiert und sammelt die detaillierten Biographien und herausragenden Leistungen von Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir", Hermann Otto Hoyer und Ernst Krause. Ebenso werden Werke der folgenden Künstler veröffentlicht: Emile Louis "Lou" Manche, Pouwels Pieter, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff "Gard", José Bertau, Birger Cranner. Der Zweck dieser Ausgabe ist es, in einer wissenschaftlichen Weise zu begutachten, wie diese Dokumente von erfahrenen Illustratoren aus verschiedenen Nationen zumeist zwischen 1941 und 1945 gestaltet wurden, um hunderttausende von jungen Europäern für die Waffen-SS anzuwerben. Dieses Buch dokumentiert auch den exquisiten künstlerischen Wert der Propaganda. Der Leser braucht kein italienisch zu können, da das Buch durch sein Bildmaterial hervorragend aufgebaut ist. Es fasst Poster, Zeichnungen und Illustrationen, welche den kämpfenden Einheiten der europäischen Waffen-SS gewidmet sind, zusammen. Index: Leitartikel von Federico Prizzi, Vorwort von Historiker Ernesto Zucconi, Vortrag von Harm Wulf. Biographien der Künstler: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir", Wigforss Finn, Wolfgang Willrich. Plakate und Grafiken von der Europäischen Waffen-SS: Deutschland, Dänemark, Lettland, Estland, Frankreich, Flandern, Galizien, Großbritannien, Ungarn, Bosnien und Kroatien, Italien, Finnland, Norwegen, Niederlande, Russland, der Wallonie.

                        Esta interesante obra ofrece por primera vez una amplia selección de diversas representaciones gráficas elaboradas por la Oficina de Propaganda y por reporteros gráficos de las Waffen SS que las fueron recopilando y haciendo en los diversos frente de la Segunda Guerra Mundial. El libro analiza y recoge detalladas biografías, amén de valiosas aportaciones de los artistas Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjölnir", Hermann Otto Hoyer y Ernst Krause. En esta obra están presentes asimismo los siguientes artistas: Louis Emile "Lou" Manche, Pieter Pouwels, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff "Gard", José Bertau, Birger Cranner. El objetivo de este libro no es otro que el examinar de manera científica y documental la iconografía que se vino haciendo, preferentemente de 1941 a 1945, por cualificados ilustradores de diferentes naciones, para reclutar a cientos de miles de jóvenes europeos en las filas de las SS de combate, documentos,por otra parte, de gran valor artístico. Que el lector no se asuste por no conocer la lengua italiana: el libro es fundamentalmente de iconografía y recoge los carteles, dibujos e ilustraciones dedicadas a las unidades de combatientes europeos de las Waffen SS. Índice del libro: Editorial de Federico Prizzi, Prólogo de Ernesto Zucconi, Presentación por Harm Wulf. Biografía de los artistas: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjölnir", Finn Wigforss y Wolfgang Willrich. Carteles y dibujos de las Waffen-SS europeas: Alemania, Dinamarca, Letonia, Estonia, Francia, Flandes, Galizia, Gran Bretaña, Hungria, Croacia Bosnia, Italia, Finlandia, Noruega, Holanda, Rusia y Valonia.

                        Cet ouvrage digne d'intérêt réunit pour la première fois une vaste collection d'affiches de propagande produites par les différents bureaux Kriegsberichter de la Waffen SS et utilisées sur tous les fronts européens de la seconde guerre mondiale. Ce livre comprend des biographies détaillées et des analyses des productions d'Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigforss, Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir", Hermann Otto Hoyer et Ernst Krause. Il contient aussi les travaux des artistes suivants: Emile Louis "Lou" Manche, Pouwels Pieter, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff "Gard", José Bertau, Birger Cranner. Cet ouvrage a pour but d'examiner de façon scientifique comment ces oeuvres furent créées, principalement entre 1941 et 1945, par des artistes talentueux et originaires de différents pays, afin de persuader des centaines de milliers de jeunes européens à s'engager dans la Waffen-SS. Il met également en relief la remarquable valeur artistique des ces oeuvres de propagande. Le lecteur n'aura pas besoin de connaître la langue italienne étant donnée la nature éminemment graphique de l'ouvrage.Sont ainsi réunis des posters, dessins et illustrations consacrées aux unités de combat des divisions européennes de la Waffen-SS. Index: Edito par Federico Prizzi, avant-propos par l'historien Ernesto Zucconi, Présentation par Harm Wulf. Biographies des artistes: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer "Mjolnir" Wigforss Finn, Wolfgang Willrich. Posters et illustrations des Waffen-SS européennes: Allemagne, Danemark, Lettonie, Estonie, France, Flandres, Galicie, Grande Bretagne, Hongrie, Bosnie et Croatie, Italie, Finlande, Norvège, Pays-Bas, Russie, Wallonie.

                        Met dit boek verschijnt voor het eerst een werk op de boekenmarkt dat een overzicht poogt te geven van de verschillende soorten propaganda zoals die tijdens de tweede wereldoorlog door verschillende SS-oorlogsverslaggevers gemaakt werd. Deze mannen, dienst doende bij de zogenaamde SS-Propaganda-Kompanien, werden ingezet op alle Europese fronten. Deze uitgave bevat biografieën van onder andere: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Finn Wigfors,Wolfgang Willrich, Harald Damsleth, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer ''Mjölnir'', Hermann Otto Hoyer en Ernst Krause. Verder bevat het werken van de volgende artiesten:Emile Louis ''Lou'' Manche, Pieter Pouwels, Frans van Immerseel, Erich Palmowski, Grod, Anders Peter Knud Hougart, Michel Jacquot, Höch, Alexis Kremkhoff ''Gard'', José Bertau, Birger Cranner. Dit boek is het resultaat van wetenschappelijk onderzoek naar het verschijnen en de achtergrond van de verschillende tekeningen, posters en aquarellen. Voornamelijk verschenen tussen 1941 en 1945,en gemaakte door getalenteerde illustratoren uit verschillende landen, heeft deze kunstvorm er mede aan bijgedragen dat honderdduizenden jonge Europeanen zich vrijwillig meldde voor de Waffen-SS. Het boek toont duidelijk de artistieke talenten van de kunstenaars. Hoewel geschreven in het Italiaans moet de lezer zich hierdoor niet laten afschrikken.Het boek bevat heel veel boeiend beeldmateriaal en geeft daardoor een duidelijk beeld van de posters,tekeningen en illustraties met als focus de front eenheden van de Europese Waffen-SS. Index: Samengesteld door Federico Prizzi en Harm Wulf. Voorwoord door de historicus Ernesto Zucconi. Biografien van de kunstenaars: Ottomar Anton, Gino Boccasile, Harald Damsleth, Hermann Otto Hoyer, Ernst Krause, Wilhelm Petersen, Hans Schweitzer ''Mjölnir'', Wigforss Finn, Wolfgang Willrich. Posters en illustraties van de Europese Waffen-SS; Duitsland, Denemarken, Letland, Estland, Frankrijk, Vlaanderen, Galicië, Groot Brittannië, Hongarije, Bosnië en Kroatië, Italië, Finland, Noorwegen, Nederland, Rusland en Wallonië.


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                          #492
                          Thank very much to all the friends that help me with informations and images.
                          Harm

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                            #493
                            Hi,

                            very interesting postcard T.K. this seemed to be a "local" postcard from Böhmen Und Mähren, and i'm pretty sure the postcard is real.

                            Another french fake postcard is available on Delcampe.
                            Now everyone can see the main errors on the fake.

                            http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,F.html

                            See You

                            Vince

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                              #494
                              Originally posted by T.K. View Post
                              Hello Tony,

                              what about this one?

                              Thanks
                              Hi TK,

                              Like Vince, I believe it is okay but I cannot seem to find another one with the Bohemia and Monrovia details on it. Heydrich's old stamping ground.

                              But it does look good.

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                                #495
                                Originally posted by Harm Wulf View Post
                                Thank very much to all the friends that help me with informations and images.
                                Harm
                                Harm,

                                you might get your ad above pulled or moved into the eStand.

                                You are not meant to be putting private ads in the main forum section.

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