Totenkopfrings - Myth & Fact

[T.Braun]

What does the (V) represent after the SS #

[RaymondG]

Hi

Well that is a couple examples and hopefully we will get a few more to check against the lists.

If members want to post up any more data that can be checked then that would be great

Raymond

[DR DOLCH]

Did SS Man #25884 have the ring in the 1936 DAL?

[RaymondG]

Hi Dr. Dolch

I am not sure that you are going to believe me but that is very example I have just been looking at. That is really bizarre.

Here is the TK document from July 1935 for Arnold Jürgensen (SS Nr#25,884) . It is taken from Detlev's book of awards and the award is dated July 4th 1935.

Raymond

[RaymondG]

Here is the listing from the July 1935 Dienstaltersliste.

Note that there is no totenkopfring symbol. Thus we have another example where the entry for a ring was not listed in the officer list before the bestowal date.

Jürgensen's entry in the 1936 list shows the receipt of a totenkopfring

Raymond

[RaymondG]

Dr. Dolch, I find you posting a request for information on SS number 25,884 as I was getting ready to post it somewhat creepy.

I am trying to work out the significance, but have not ruled out the paranormal

Raymond

[DR DOLCH]

Raymond,really odd because I am looking at the same catolog as we speak? It's great that you have a copy because it also show him having two honor ring application documents with different dates,what gives with that? I hope there is a real good explanation to that.Raymond you are correct it is for a sword.

[RaymondG]

Hi

If I recall correctly, one is for an SS sword, but I will go away and check. I think it is on page 338 or 339 if memory serves me correctly

How strange!

Raymond

[RaymondG]

Hi

Just run back downstairs and it is the document for the SS Degen.

Raymond

[DR DOLCH]

You are correct that got by me.

[Robin Lumsden]

What complicates things is that a ring could be withdrawn for disciplinary reasons, and then be reinstated later on. So, it is not impossible that a DAL printed after an early ring had been withdrawn would show no record of the ring-holder receiving it. Never say 'never'.

[coburg22]

Hello,

To answer T. Braun's question in Post #16, I believe the V after the SS number meant that their racial backround needed to be checked at a later date by the RuSHA.

Best,

James

[SamS]

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