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Junk,but I am sure they all found new homes..Fakes always do.
Glenn"A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"Comment
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Was für ein Haufen Mist!
The markings alone would be enough to make one run away.....
Yes, I am sure they are tucked away in some closet collection.
Thanks Derka.Willi
Preußens Gloria!
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Looking at them with five years' more experience in our odd little hobby, I like them even less now.
DonComment
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I did not read the entire thread but many of these are "oldies but goodies" and I have seen several of them over the years. They are classic pieces that magically started to appear from +- the 1980s when collecting became lucrative enough to start making higher end fakes like this. I lived in Germany at that time and people who made tunics during the war came out of retirement and started making uniform items again.Comment
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Don, I agree they look worse now.
Johnny, at the time I traced the chain of custody on these, and I do believe they originated in Europe. And then from a dealer there to the "left" coast. Then either to the collector directly, or possibility a detour through another dealer.Willi
Preußens Gloria!
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Sapere audeComment
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There were several people in the later 80s that were making stuff like this in Germany. They entered the US market quickly and were scooped up. I was called in to see a wealthy man's collection probably 20? years ago now and it was 90% stuff like this, all post war. I told the family and they went nuts and refused to believe me. Before the internet and reference books this stuff was thought to be real by many people. The names are well known but I will not repeat them here as several people are in the US and still alive. One person in NJ is especially well known.Comment
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At the 2007 SOS I bought a similar yellow piped wrap from a "left coast" dealer. Thanx to the intervention and advice of OSS I only owned it for about 30 minutes before it was returned. JComment
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Who was the dealer
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Not sure if it was the same material, an auction house here in Pennsylvania - Dotta Auction Co had an auction on Jan 13 where there were 5 or so wrappers. I did not attend but looked at the material online, General's, Police, SS, Herman Goring Div wrappers were all for sale. All rare, Knights Crosses, Grand Cross etc, all fake of course.Comment
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There are many people who still believe 100% that these are original items.Comment
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That's interesting Dan. I checked their website, but could not see the listing anymore. I did see their buyer "as is" policy, and that the buyer accepts all liability once the item is sold.Originally posted by Daniel Griffin View PostWilli
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This dealer still offered for sale one HBT wrap last year, on his website and his auction site, and on his stand at the SOS in 2017.Originally posted by jacquesf View Post
This very wrap (mint with paper tag on its left sleeve) belonged to Richard and was previously discussed with him in another thread here, in a gentlemen way i shall precise.
Caveat emtor...
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After checking dates,Originally posted by derka View Post
april 2017
This very wrap (mint with paper tag on its left sleeve) was already offered in 2015 at the SOS (with the SS Totenkopf Auklarüngs wrap).
This HBT wrap was previously discussed in 2008, and even initialy in 2003...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...light=hbt+wrapComment
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