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**Saufaenger kid** · 06-22-2019, 04:16 AM

Anybody seen this mark

Karl Weber Fahnenfabrik Berlin 1941

Gary

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**oldflagswanted** · 06-25-2019, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Saufaenger kid View Post

Anybody seen this mark
Karl Weber Fahnenfabrik Berlin 1941
Gary

Hello Gary:
From WAF t=1008414, a fake banner ...
IMO, as after extensive online search I'm
unable to find anything about this firm, & no
other flag examples from such a Berlin maker.
Tag is dated, which is common on fakes, and
hooks are not type used on period banners &
again are seen on many fantasy fakes. Also
the design using split national emblems would
not be acceptable even if used in Axis friendship.
.........OFW

(below) Photos from t=1008414 ...

**oldflagswanted** · 07-14-2019, 12:12 AM

More fakes ...

Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg and Kiel.
See WAF t=1010171 for more details.
..........
(My 1st WAF Avatar)
................................ All feel free to add more. ..........................
-------------------( 07-13-19 update, real count=70+ )------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW ob (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed = ob, or just *OFW
2b. Fahnen-Hoffmann, label, t=23469 *Seba (bullion Fuhrer standard)
2c. Fahnen-Hoffmann Berlin S.W.68 ges.gesch, label, *paulj (Zeppelin)
3. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (stamped & sewn label), *OFW (Gosch)
3b. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rhein, WAF t=431919, *OFW(HmEK)
3c. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (label), *negative1 (RDF) post #146.
3d. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, *glaser, but after WW2,
real, but reported as Flottenstander from Officer of Bundesmarine
S-boat P6089, and used in the 1960's.

3e. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, red bevo lettering on
white sewn on label, stamped 1/65 date & NATO #8345-12-120-6330,
*Von Thronstahl (Geschw.stdr.) from WAF t=716477
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp. Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW (Gosch, RKF)
5. Neue Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW confirmed (RKF)
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW observed
7. Lorenz Summa Söhne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (Gosch & RKF flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
8b. Fahnen Richter gegr 1869 Koln8, *OFW (tag on 1st patrn RKF)
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW observed (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW observed
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW observed
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Württembergische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW(GA)
15. Fahnenfabrika A. Dreyer Hildesheim gege. 1881, *RUHL13, RKF
16. N.V.P.F. vVlissingen & Co's Katoenfabr: Helmond (Holland), *kk, RKF,
..... G.FL, Pieter Fentener van Vlissingen & Co. Cotton Factory (t=641149)
17. Witte K.G. Munchen, *OFW observed, (RKF, & rarer pattern RKF's)
18. Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf (HTR), *OFW ob (RKF)
19. WFT (triangle logo), *OFW observed (RKF & RDF)
20. Fahnen-Kreisel, (corrected), *OFW observed (RKF)
21. P&Co, *rhudspith, (KM Signal Flags)
22p. Gabriel Herest A.G. Konstenz, *T_E, (RKF, p=pending full review)
23. Koechlin, Baumgarlner u. Cie.A.G. Lorrach, *OFW (U-boat RKF & RDF)
24. KRESS St. Tönis [in block], confirmed, *Merdock & *OFW (RDF)
25. Flaggenfabrik Arfelstedt & Hornung Hamburg+Altona, *OFW (G)
26. DFS (flag tag) Duisburger Fahnenfabrik M.Steinmetz, *OFW (RKF)
27. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, *OFW (RDF HHA#8454)
27b. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, Reiss-Schutz DRGM, tag,*OFW (RDF)
27c. Küpper & Rudolph, Reiss-Schutz D.R.G.M., tag,*hdmarley (RDF)
28. Schäelffer (HTR?) Nossen, *OFW (RDF)
29. Fahnen-Fleck Hamburg 11 Rödingsmarkt 1, tag,*OFW (Gosch)
29b. Fahnen-Fleck Rödingsmarkt1 Hamburg11 Burstah Eck, tag *Faz73
30. Curt Bräutigam (over) Plauen. Vogtland, *OFW (RKF) vs. Fk2.
30b. Kurt Bräutigam Plauen I. Vogtl., (HTR) t=442400, *Rob on WAF(RKF)
31. Textildruck Arlt Inh. Oskar u. Kurt Arlt Schönheide/Erzgeb. "(RKF)
32. L.Stromeyer & Co Konstanz BA.H.IV, *BKW, (Radio Station marker)
33. dnq.41, t=188834, *BKW (Radio station direction marker "F")
34. J.T.Dobbins Ltd Crown Mills Ardwick Manchester 1943, *Merdock (RKF)
35. New York Navy Yard 1936, *OFW (RKF, sewn 1st Pattern)
36. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *Merdock (NSKK pennant)
36b. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *NBolinger (Swastika pennant)
37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H., tag
.....*OFW (Swastika 3rd Reich National flag = 3RNF)
38. Vereinsartikel Ph.Lennelaub_ Frankfurt a/Main, from WAF t=458411,
.....*OFW (long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
39. Fahnen u. Stickereien Randel Dusseldorf Kasernenstr.23, *caf48, from
..... t=471827(long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
40. Mare Island Navy Yard 1936, *Negative1 (RKF, 1st Pattern) "wmtf" post #109
41. Königsberger Segelkickwaren-und flaggenfabrik, J.E.W. Hellgardt
..... A.-G. Königsberg i./PR., darrenbate*, (tag on RDF) "wmtf" post 138.
42. Buntstoff Berlin, *behblc (300x500 Göschen=Bow Jack) t=474334
43. Fahnen Werkstätten Heber Gestickte Flaggen u. Behänge
..... Markneukirchen, tag, *BC, (Eagle Podium banner) t=390577
44. To-Go Patentamt gesch. Walther Goldbach Berlin Wilmersdorf,
.... *Patrick_W, (gray army officer on duty auto fender pennant)
44b. Walther Goldbach Berlin-Wilmersdorf1, *RW, (DDAC celluloid AFT)
45. "FIB" Pola, on a super size 500cm printed AH Standard, *OFW.
46. Heinrich Zeisig Fahnenfabrik, Breslau 1, nur Junkernstr.7
..... DRL flag on pole, *Ordensritter.
47. Hannoversche Fahnenfabrik, *WhisperX27, (Gosch)
48. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg Pr,*patriote3945, t=514201(yacht pennant)
48b. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg-Hamburg, *TC, (Weimar RKF)
49. Fahnen-Oster Köln, t=615320, *juno44 (podium banner)
50. Plüschweberei Grefrath (plush weave), *Eljabanebre, (RKF) t=642818
51. Fahnenträger, *XxAmilcaRxX, (RKF 200x335cm) t=666238
52. Fahnen-Walter Auerbach I.V., tag, *flatlander, (HJ) t=675770
53. Berlin Max Küst tag, 11x16, *OFW, t=675831 (NSFK Pennant)
54. Textilindustrie G.Bukiet Litzmannstadt, *OFW, (RKF)
55. Fahnen Fadik D. Koch Coberg, *espenlaub, (1930 vet flag)
56. Hallesche Fahnenfabrik, Halle A.S., *RW, (Swaz pennant)
57. Klinger, with KM stamp, * michiel01 t=564994 (signal pennants)
58. Lanex, with KM "M" stamp, * darrenbate t=745272 (signal pennants)
59. Leo Goedeckemeyer, Freiburg/Br.EggStr.3, *hdmarley (Hunting Flag)
.... sewn on maker label ref. WAF t=765138.
60. S.A.-Mann Herman Tschunden, Ad *GS, t=773758, post #11.,
.... Hakenkreuz-Hausfahnen. (on flag marking unknown).
61. Jos.Fssels, Wascheausstattung, M.Gladbach, tag.*OFW, (3RNF)
62. Fahnen Reinecke Hannover, *james s., t=791146b, (RDF tag).
63. Fahnenfabrik Mehn Braunschweig, *Discostu, t=837674, (tag).
64. J.Gross Nachfolgen Stetter, Mannheim, *anton67, t=839188, (tag).
64b. STETTER J. Gross Nachfolger Marktplatz F.2.6, (tag), *Milton,
..... from t=916381, (Swastika banner 14"x24").
65. Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegr 1867 Flaggenfabrik, *ff1, SF (tag).
65p. Flaggenfabrik Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegrundet 1867, RKF (tag).
66p. Henrich Muller Munchen, pending photo comfirmation, HJ.
67. Westdeutsche Fahnen-Fabrik Bonn, *Sasktraveler, HPSignal (tag).
68. Karl Moser Offenbach-M Fahnen- Vereinsartikel, *Wenzel, DRL (tag).
69. Gebr. Forster Fahnenfabrik 1939, *MJD,

Balken Cross ID (stamp).
70. "Der Stahlhof" Magdeburg Ges. Gesch. N.S.D.F.B. (Stahlhelm) Flagge
..... *Howard Kelley, 2007 t=248350 (tag on pennant).
-----------------------( maker rarity ranking )-----------------------------
A. Often seen: 2, 2b(tag), 2c,(tag), 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17.
B. Sometimes seen: 1, 3,3b,3c, 5, 11, 15, 17 trans pattern RKF, 19, 21.
C. Seldom seen: 8b(tag), 9, 10, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32, 33, 36(tag), 37(tag),
....38(tag), 44, 49, 52(tag), 3d(after WW2 tag), 54, 57, 58, 62(tag),
....64(tag), 64b(tag), 68 (tag), 69 (stamp), 70 (tag).
D. Ultra-rare: 18, 23, 25, 26&b(tag), 27&b/c(tag), 29&b(tag), 30, 30b,
....31,39(tag), 47, 48, 48b(tag), 53(tag), 56(tag), 59 (tag), 63(tag).
E. The rarest: 34, 35, 40, 41(tag), 42, 43(tag), Ot14, 50, 51,
....61&65(tag).
------------------------[ Other ID Means ]----------------------------------
Others: some indirect by RZM tag numbers (^=no photo yet posted)
Ot1. A4#308, Chr. Heinrich Arnold Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, changed to
....... Coburger & Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, ^Gefolgschaft on WAF, (HJ)
Ot2. Bernhard Richter Fahnenfabrik Coln, est.1869, Grossherzl. Mecklog.
....... Hotlieferant (sewn tag),*OFW (WW1 tri-color IC center Gosch)
Ot3. Fahnen Fleck, Hamburg (e.1882), *OFW (Army unit flags: F&S)
Ot4. Bildgiesserie KRAAS, Berlin, (estb.1883), *OFW (Army " tops)
Ot5. New Möeller GMBH #5001 snap hook vs. t=421850 *kk (on
....... pennants)
Ot6. NMM, NSDAP top, real=left & center, fake on right. *OFW (1st pattern)
Ot7. RZM N & P tags, examples used on flags, *OFW (DAF & HJ)
Ot8. Fringe examples used on flags, *OFW (Orts & Podium banners)
Ot9. Kriegsmarine marking examples used on flags, *OFW (RKF, etc.)
Ot10. NSKOV Pole Top, Ges.Gesch Otto Gahr designer marked, *OFW
Ot11. RZM M3/27, Schmidt Söhne J.H. Isarlohen, *OFW (pole tops)
Ot12. NSDAP-Tirol-Vorarlberg Gaupropaganda-Amt, *OFW (3RNF)
Ot13. Italian made with Napoli City Property stamp, *OFW ( 3RNF)
Ot14. WW2 Japanese made German RKF, *IWSS, from t=460051
Ot15. "Sächsische Fahnenfabrik Georg Lange & Ottomar Kneiss",
....... 1932 or 1933 in Leipzig.*WAB, (vet top), from WAF t=561415
......... like #91-OFW* pole top collection.
Ot16. Artist: Berthold Rungas, Designer Priessmann, Bauer & Co.
....... Munchen, (RNS top), from WAF t=507404
Ot17. Deutsche Arbeit, Bevo woven generic made in Germany tag?,
....... *inimicus, (DAF CPF), from WAF t=587212
Ot18. KM Black Signal Flag, U-Boat Surrender type from t=800716.
Ot19. WW2 period snap hooks, (cp-flags, pennants, pb's t=943508)
------------------[ Reference Threads ]-----------------------------------
References for Ot4 (Army), Ot10 (NSKOV), etc., ...
German Army pole tops, modern, 3rd Reich, & Imperial ...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672535
NSKOV veteran tops...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=679569
DAF & NSBO tops ...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=681726
SA, SS (fake & real), NSKK, NSFK, tops...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680849

--------------------------[ Fakes ] ---------------------------------------
Fakes known: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with single end dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen I. Vogtl., landeskreis, *OFW (SS, RKF, HJ)
Fk3. NMM (no maker mark) Reichskriegsfahne 60x90, *OFW (Delta RKF)
--------> Note: ALL 60x90 FLAGS ARE FAKES, see t=694529 <--------
Fk3a. Fake RKF, 60x90, with bogus KM Eagle "M" stamp, *OFW, t=513875.
Fk3b. Fake RKF, 90x150, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3c. NMN Fake SS, 60x90, *TonyS, t=675999 (SS bolts on black)
Fk3d. Fake RKF, 90x145, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3e. Fake RKF, ~61x88cm, 1st pattern, bad marking, *Normandy, t=831734
Fk3f. R.Badermann Wien 4/42, 84cm long, *upbeck, (RKF) t=962961.
Fk3g. Fake SS-BW Posen, 40x60, *Iserlohn, post #385, (SS & skull)
Fk3h. Fake RKF (IC Center), marked 1943, 85x150, Munchen. See
..... WAF t=992482 for more details.
Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg and Kiel.
..... See WAF t=1010171 for more details.
Fk4. M9/25, 60x90 (WAF T=335496), *OFW (Delta, Soldatenbundes)
Fk4b. " with NS Soldatenbund fake marking, *OFW " from t=509449
..... and additional examples shown in WAF t=745222 and t=807943.
Fk5. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 60x90 (invalid size), *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk5b. Walter Buch Heilbronn, 60x90, *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk6. 1942. B.16. HK., *OFW (RKF fake, with one off added marking)
Fk7. NMM, leather triangle corners & strings, *OFW (RKF P1/P2, 1970's Japan made)
Fk7b. NSKK M-76, " Modern Japan made, *jmcm, from t=580774.
Fk7c. NSKK Berlin, Modern Japan made, *Buhrkall, from t=669490
Fk7d. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7e. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7f. Adolf Hitler Standard, Modern Japan made, *Craig H t=833290
Fk7g. Naval Reserve Officer Commanding, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7h. RDF (eagle in canton) , Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk8. DKM 1937, from WAF thread #421749, *OFW (RKF)
Fk9. III/1, heavy bullion wire corner patch numbers, *OFW(Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk10. IV+Skull, heavy bullion wire corner patch *OFW (Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk11. I/SS2, SS non-wire corner patch numbers & bogus markings,
..... NSDAP, ORGANISATION M9/26, WAF t=373675, *OFW (SS-SBF)
Fk12. NMM, dark underwing and poor baton detail, *OFW (small GA)
Fk13. NMM, Heeresgruppe SS, bogus stamp marked, *OFW (AGrp)
Fk14. NMM, 48x90 bogus size marking, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14b. M/9, Schutzstaffel N/58, t=313905, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14c. Like Fk14b, except chest & white in wreath, 60x90, *OFW"
Fk14d. Variation of Fk14c, black eye, extra claws & stamps, *OFW(").
Fk15. NMN, 60x90, " Ordnungspolizei, *OFW (Delta, Police Cmd)
Fk15b. M9/26, 60x90, Ordnungspolizei, *WK (black swaz Police Eagle)
Fk15c. Carl Henkel, Bielefeld, 1940, 75x50, Ordnungspolizei, *OFW.
Fk15d. 60x90, M9/26, DIENSTFLAGGE, *kb, SS-Lager (SS on black)
Fk16. NMM, SS fender flag with bogus eagle & skull, *OFW(SS-Cmd)
Fk16b. NMM, SS auto flag with same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd)
Fk16c. RZM 61/35 bogus tag, same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd penn.)
Fk17. RZM tag series of SS Division auto pennant, *OFW (Delta, ")
Fk18. R.Badermann/Wien 5/41 M9/25, *OFW (Delta, SS-Lah1)
Fk19. NMM, with bogus NSRL stamp, Silesien via WAF t=410363,
..... and shown again on t=460333 (small swastika flag, Delta)
Fk20. Fahnen-Feeken Gethin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (SS & Swaz Bnr.)
Fk20b. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=929357
Fk20c. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=961599
Fk21. NSDAP top, 1st pattern with bogus markings, *OFW (see Ot6)
Fk22. NMM, fake NSDAP GL fender flag, *CD, from t=511407
Fk23. Fahnen-Kley HAMM (Westf.), fake maker tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk24. NVPFv (Holland), real maker #16 but fake tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk25. RZM St 21/36 SS, & 12.SS-Panzer Division Hitler Jugend,
..... fake tags, *LVAZ, (HJ) from t=775238.
Fk26, small table top flags (ttf's) & pennants, printed
.... or embroidered. SW Asia made, some with metal lug end
.... cross rods as seen in t=785055. (SS,KM,Heer, etc.)
Fk27. Different 3rd Reich standards in color on heavy cardstock,
.... etc. 11 inches x 9.5 inches. *OFW, see t=815666 & more.
...."... four differant versions sold by "Insignia Collector's Club" in the
....late 50s/early 60s... ".
Fk28. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 27.0" x 11.5",*OFW (WW1 Lancer pennant),
....see t=815734.
Fk29. NMM, IKF, 60x90cm,*OFW (WW1 War Flag), ... see t=841383.
Fk30. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, "Handelsflaqge mit
.... dem Eiseren Kreuz", Lot 550: THIRD REICH MERCHANT MARINE
.... FLAG, Est: $160 - $250 USD. 1943 fake date & bogus 48x86cm.
*********************************
-----------[ Original Chain Stitched & Other Pennants]----------
See http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=504179
and http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256210
****************
Now abridged items ...
For -------------[ Surviving SA martyr name Flags ]--> See post #384
For -------------[ Surviving Ultra Rare SS Flags ]-----> See post #346
For -------------[ Known overt SS-SBF fakes: ] ------> See post #346
For -------------[ Surviving Ultra Rare Flags con't ]--> See post #346
For -------------[ Podium Banner Types]-------------> See post #347
For -------------[ Original Pole Tops ]----------------> See post #348
For -------------[ Grommet fakes ]-------------------> See post #349
******************************************
.......... OLDFLAGSWANTED ...........
(below)Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg
and Kiel. See WAF t=1010171 for more details.

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**oldflagswanted** · 09-10-2019, 07:10 AM

List addition ...

71. FIB" Pola, Italian maker, *nordy6, Fuhrer Standard ...
..........
(My 1st WAF Avatar)
................................ All feel free to add more. ..........................
-------------------( 09-10-19 update, real count=71+ )------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW ob (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed = ob, or just *OFW
2b. Fahnen-Hoffmann, label, t=23469 *Seba (bullion Fuhrer standard)
2c. Fahnen-Hoffmann Berlin S.W.68 ges.gesch, label, *paulj (Zeppelin)
3. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (stamped & sewn label), *OFW (Gosch)
3b. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rhein, WAF t=431919, *OFW(HmEK)
3c. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (label), *negative1 (RDF) post #146.
3d. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, *glaser, but after WW2,
real, but reported as Flottenstander from Officer of Bundesmarine
S-boat P6089, and used in the 1960's.

3e. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, red bevo lettering on
white sewn on label, stamped 1/65 date & NATO #8345-12-120-6330,
*Von Thronstahl (Geschw.stdr.) from WAF t=716477
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp. Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW (Gosch, RKF)
5. Neue Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW confirmed (RKF)
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW observed
7. Lorenz Summa Söhne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (Gosch & RKF flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
8b. Fahnen Richter gegr 1869 Koln8, *OFW (tag on 1st patrn RKF)
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW observed (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW observed
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW observed
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Württembergische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW(GA)
15. Fahnenfabrika A. Dreyer Hildesheim gege. 1881, *RUHL13, RKF
16. N.V.P.F. vVlissingen & Co's Katoenfabr: Helmond (Holland), *kk, RKF,
..... G.FL, Pieter Fentener van Vlissingen & Co. Cotton Factory (t=641149)
17. Witte K.G. Munchen, *OFW observed, (RKF, & rarer pattern RKF's)
18. Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf (HTR), *OFW ob (RKF)
19. WFT (triangle logo), *OFW observed (RKF & RDF)
20. Fahnen-Kreisel, (corrected), *OFW observed (RKF)
21. P&Co, *rhudspith, (KM Signal Flags)
22p. Gabriel Herest A.G. Konstenz, *T_E, (RKF, p=pending full review)
23. Koechlin, Baumgarlner u. Cie.A.G. Lorrach, *OFW (U-boat RKF & RDF)
24. KRESS St. Tönis [in block], confirmed, *Merdock & *OFW (RDF)
25. Flaggenfabrik Arfelstedt & Hornung Hamburg+Altona, *OFW (G)
26. DFS (flag tag) Duisburger Fahnenfabrik M.Steinmetz, *OFW (RKF)
27. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, *OFW (RDF HHA#8454)
27b. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, Reiss-Schutz DRGM, tag,*OFW (RDF)
27c. Küpper & Rudolph, Reiss-Schutz D.R.G.M., tag,*hdmarley (RDF)
28. Schäelffer (HTR?) Nossen, *OFW (RDF)
29. Fahnen-Fleck Hamburg 11 Rödingsmarkt 1, tag,*OFW (Gosch)
29b. Fahnen-Fleck Rödingsmarkt1 Hamburg11 Burstah Eck, tag *Faz73
30. Curt Bräutigam (over) Plauen. Vogtland, *OFW (RKF) vs. Fk2.
30b. Kurt Bräutigam Plauen I. Vogtl., (HTR) t=442400, *Rob on WAF(RKF)
31. Textildruck Arlt Inh. Oskar u. Kurt Arlt Schönheide/Erzgeb. "(RKF)
32. L.Stromeyer & Co Konstanz BA.H.IV, *BKW, (Radio Station marker)
33. dnq.41, t=188834, *BKW (Radio station direction marker "F")
34. J.T.Dobbins Ltd Crown Mills Ardwick Manchester 1943, *Merdock (RKF)
35. New York Navy Yard 1936, *OFW (RKF, sewn 1st Pattern)
36. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *Merdock (NSKK pennant)
36b. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *NBolinger (Swastika pennant)
37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H., tag
.....*OFW (Swastika 3rd Reich National flag = 3RNF)
38. Vereinsartikel Ph.Lennelaub_ Frankfurt a/Main, from WAF t=458411,
.....*OFW (long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
39. Fahnen u. Stickereien Randel Dusseldorf Kasernenstr.23, *caf48, from
..... t=471827(long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
40. Mare Island Navy Yard 1936, *Negative1 (RKF, 1st Pattern) "wmtf" post #109
41. Königsberger Segelkickwaren-und flaggenfabrik, J.E.W. Hellgardt
..... A.-G. Königsberg i./PR., darrenbate*, (tag on RDF) "wmtf" post 138.
42. Buntstoff Berlin, *behblc (300x500 Göschen=Bow Jack) t=474334
43. Fahnen Werkstätten Heber Gestickte Flaggen u. Behänge
..... Markneukirchen, tag, *BC, (Eagle Podium banner) t=390577
44. To-Go Patentamt gesch. Walther Goldbach Berlin Wilmersdorf,
.... *Patrick_W, (gray army officer on duty auto fender pennant)
44b. Walther Goldbach Berlin-Wilmersdorf1, *RW, (DDAC celluloid AFT)
45. "FIB" Pola, on a super size 500cm printed AH Standard, *OFW.
46. Heinrich Zeisig Fahnenfabrik, Breslau 1, nur Junkernstr.7
..... DRL flag on pole, *Ordensritter.
47. Hannoversche Fahnenfabrik, *WhisperX27, (Gosch)
48. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg Pr,*patriote3945, t=514201(yacht pennant)
48b. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg-Hamburg, *TC, (Weimar RKF)
49. Fahnen-Oster Köln, t=615320, *juno44 (podium banner)
50. Plüschweberei Grefrath (plush weave), *Eljabanebre, (RKF) t=642818
51. Fahnenträger, *XxAmilcaRxX, (RKF 200x335cm) t=666238
52. Fahnen-Walter Auerbach I.V., tag, *flatlander, (HJ) t=675770
53. Berlin Max Küst tag, 11x16, *OFW, t=675831 (NSFK Pennant)
54. Textilindustrie G.Bukiet Litzmannstadt, *OFW, (RKF)
55. Fahnen Fadik D. Koch Coberg, *espenlaub, (1930 vet flag)
56. Hallesche Fahnenfabrik, Halle A.S., *RW, (Swaz pennant)
57. Klinger, with KM stamp, * michiel01 t=564994 (signal pennants)
58. Lanex, with KM "M" stamp, * darrenbate t=745272 (signal pennants)
59. Leo Goedeckemeyer, Freiburg/Br.EggStr.3, *hdmarley (Hunting Flag)
.... sewn on maker label ref. WAF t=765138.
60. S.A.-Mann Herman Tschunden, Ad *GS, t=773758, post #11.,
.... Hakenkreuz-Hausfahnen. (on flag marking unknown).
61. Jos.Fssels, Wascheausstattung, M.Gladbach, tag.*OFW, (3RNF)
62. Fahnen Reinecke Hannover, *james s., t=791146b, (RDF tag).
63. Fahnenfabrik Mehn Braunschweig, *Discostu, t=837674, (tag).
64. J.Gross Nachfolgen Stetter, Mannheim, *anton67, t=839188, (tag).
64b. STETTER J. Gross Nachfolger Marktplatz F.2.6, (tag), *Milton,
..... from t=916381, (Swastika banner 14"x24").
65. Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegr 1867 Flaggenfabrik, *ff1, SF (tag).
65p. Flaggenfabrik Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegrundet 1867, RKF (tag).
66p. Henrich Muller Munchen, pending photo comfirmation, HJ.
67. Westdeutsche Fahnen-Fabrik Bonn, *Sasktraveler, HPSignal (tag).
68. Karl Moser Offenbach-M Fahnen- Vereinsartikel, *Wenzel, DRL (tag).
69. Gebr. Forster Fahnenfabrik 1939, *MJD,

Balken Cross ID (stamp).
70. "Der Stahlhof" Magdeburg Ges. Gesch. N.S.D.F.B. (Stahlhelm) Flagge
..... *Howard Kelley, 2007 t=248350 (tag on pennant).
71. FIB" Pola, Italian maker, *nordy6, Fuhrer Standard t=760167, (tag).
-----------------------( maker rarity ranking )-----------------------------
A. Often seen: 2, 2b(tag), 2c,(tag), 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17.
B. Sometimes seen: 1, 3,3b,3c, 5, 11, 15, 17 trans pattern RKF, 19, 21.
C. Seldom seen: 8b(tag), 9, 10, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32, 33, 36(tag), 37(tag),
....38(tag), 44, 49, 52(tag), 3d(after WW2 tag), 54, 57, 58, 62(tag),
....64(tag), 64b(tag), 68 (tag), 69 (stamp), 70 (tag), 71 (tag).
D. Ultra-rare: 18, 23, 25, 26&b(tag), 27&b/c(tag), 29&b(tag), 30, 30b,
....31,39(tag), 47, 48, 48b(tag), 53(tag), 56(tag), 59 (tag), 63(tag).
E. The rarest: 34, 35, 40, 41(tag), 42, 43(tag), Ot14, 50, 51,
....61&65(tag).
------------------------[ Other ID Means ]----------------------------------
Others: some indirect by RZM tag numbers (^=no photo yet posted)
Ot1. A4#308, Chr. Heinrich Arnold Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, changed to
....... Coburger & Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, ^Gefolgschaft on WAF, (HJ)
Ot2. Bernhard Richter Fahnenfabrik Coln, est.1869, Grossherzl. Mecklog.
....... Hotlieferant (sewn tag),*OFW (WW1 tri-color IC center Gosch)
Ot3. Fahnen Fleck, Hamburg (e.1882), *OFW (Army unit flags: F&S)
Ot4. Bildgiesserie KRAAS, Berlin, (estb.1883), *OFW (Army " tops)
Ot5. New Möeller GMBH #5001 snap hook vs. t=421850 *kk (on
....... pennants)
Ot6. NMM, NSDAP top, real=left & center, fake on right. *OFW (1st pattern)
Ot7. RZM N & P tags, examples used on flags, *OFW (DAF & HJ)
Ot8. Fringe examples used on flags, *OFW (Orts & Podium banners)
Ot9. Kriegsmarine marking examples used on flags, *OFW (RKF, etc.)
Ot10. NSKOV Pole Top, Ges.Gesch Otto Gahr designer marked, *OFW
Ot11. RZM M3/27, Schmidt Söhne J.H. Isarlohen, *OFW (pole tops)
Ot12. NSDAP-Tirol-Vorarlberg Gaupropaganda-Amt, *OFW (3RNF)
Ot13. Italian made with Napoli City Property stamp, *OFW ( 3RNF)
Ot14. WW2 Japanese made German RKF, *IWSS, from t=460051
Ot15. "Sächsische Fahnenfabrik Georg Lange & Ottomar Kneiss",
....... 1932 or 1933 in Leipzig.*WAB, (vet top), from WAF t=561415
......... like #91-OFW* pole top collection.
Ot16. Artist: Berthold Rungas, Designer Priessmann, Bauer & Co.
....... Munchen, (RNS top), from WAF t=507404
Ot17. Deutsche Arbeit, Bevo woven generic made in Germany tag?,
....... *inimicus, (DAF CPF), from WAF t=587212
Ot18. KM Black Signal Flag, U-Boat Surrender type from t=800716.
Ot19. WW2 period snap hooks, (cp-flags, pennants, pb's t=943508)
--------------------------[ Fakes ] ---------------------------------------
Fakes known: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with single end dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen I. Vogtl., landeskreis, *OFW (SS, RKF, HJ)
Fk3. NMM (no maker mark) Reichskriegsfahne 60x90, *OFW (Delta RKF)
--------> Note: ALL 60x90 FLAGS ARE FAKES, see t=694529 <--------
Fk3a. Fake RKF, 60x90, with bogus KM Eagle "M" stamp, *OFW, t=513875.
Fk3b. Fake RKF, 90x150, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3c. NMN Fake SS, 60x90, *TonyS, t=675999 (SS bolts on black)
Fk3d. Fake RKF, 90x145, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3e. Fake RKF, ~61x88cm, 1st pattern, bad marking, *Normandy, t=831734
Fk3f. R.Badermann Wien 4/42, 84cm long, *upbeck, (RKF) t=962961.
Fk3g. Fake SS-BW Posen, 40x60, *Iserlohn, post #385, (SS & skull)
Fk3h. Fake RKF (IC Center), marked 1943, 85x150, Munchen. See
..... WAF t=992482 for more details.
Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg and Kiel.
..... See WAF t=1010171 for more details.
Fk4. M9/25, 60x90 (WAF T=335496), *OFW (Delta, Soldatenbundes)
Fk4b. " with NS Soldatenbund fake marking, *OFW " from t=509449
..... and additional examples shown in WAF t=745222 and t=807943.
Fk5. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 60x90 (invalid size), *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk5b. Walter Buch Heilbronn, 60x90, *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk6. 1942. B.16. HK., *OFW (RKF fake, with one off added marking)
Fk7. NMM, leather triangle corners & strings, *OFW (RKF P1/P2, 1970's Japan made)
Fk7b. NSKK M-76, " Modern Japan made, *jmcm, from t=580774.
Fk7c. NSKK Berlin, Modern Japan made, *Buhrkall, from t=669490
Fk7d. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7e. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7f. Adolf Hitler Standard, Modern Japan made, *Craig H t=833290
Fk7g. Naval Reserve Officer Commanding, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7h. RDF (eagle in canton) , Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk8. DKM 1937, from WAF thread #421749, *OFW (RKF)
Fk9. III/1, heavy bullion wire corner patch numbers, *OFW(Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk10. IV+Skull, heavy bullion wire corner patch *OFW (Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk11. I/SS2, SS non-wire corner patch numbers & bogus markings,
..... NSDAP, ORGANISATION M9/26, WAF t=373675, *OFW (SS-SBF)
Fk12. NMM, dark underwing and poor baton detail, *OFW (small GA)
Fk13. NMM, Heeresgruppe SS, bogus stamp marked, *OFW (AGrp)
Fk14. NMM, 48x90 bogus size marking, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14b. M/9, Schutzstaffel N/58, t=313905, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14c. Like Fk14b, except chest & white in wreath, 60x90, *OFW"
Fk14d. Variation of Fk14c, black eye, extra claws & stamps, *OFW(").
Fk15. NMN, 60x90, " Ordnungspolizei, *OFW (Delta, Police Cmd)
Fk15b. M9/26, 60x90, Ordnungspolizei, *WK (black swaz Police Eagle)
Fk15c. Carl Henkel, Bielefeld, 1940, 75x50, Ordnungspolizei, *OFW.
Fk15d. 60x90, M9/26, DIENSTFLAGGE, *kb, SS-Lager (SS on black)
Fk16. NMM, SS fender flag with bogus eagle & skull, *OFW(SS-Cmd)
Fk16b. NMM, SS auto flag with same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd)
Fk16c. RZM 61/35 bogus tag, same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd penn.)
Fk17. RZM tag series of SS Division auto pennant, *OFW (Delta, ")
Fk18. R.Badermann/Wien 5/41 M9/25, *OFW (Delta, SS-Lah1)
Fk19. NMM, with bogus NSRL stamp, Silesien via WAF t=410363,
..... and shown again on t=460333 (small swastika flag, Delta)
Fk20. Fahnen-Feeken Gethin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (SS & Swaz Bnr.)
Fk20b. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=929357
Fk20c. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=961599
Fk21. NSDAP top, 1st pattern with bogus markings, *OFW (see Ot6)
Fk22. NMM, fake NSDAP GL fender flag, *CD, from t=511407
Fk23. Fahnen-Kley HAMM (Westf.), fake maker tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk24. NVPFv (Holland), real maker #16 but fake tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk25. RZM St 21/36 SS, & 12.SS-Panzer Division Hitler Jugend,
..... fake tags, *LVAZ, (HJ) from t=775238.
Fk26, small table top flags (ttf's) & pennants, printed
.... or embroidered. SW Asia made, some with metal lug end
.... cross rods as seen in t=785055. (SS,KM,Heer, etc.)
Fk27. Different 3rd Reich standards in color on heavy cardstock,
.... etc. 11 inches x 9.5 inches. *OFW, see t=815666 & more.
...."... four differant versions sold by "Insignia Collector's Club" in the
....late 50s/early 60s... ".
Fk28. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 27.0" x 11.5",*OFW (WW1 Lancer pennant),
....see t=815734.
Fk29. NMM, IKF, 60x90cm,*OFW (WW1 War Flag), ... see t=841383.
Fk30. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, "Handelsflaqge mit
.... dem Eiseren Kreuz", Lot 550: THIRD REICH MERCHANT MARINE
.... FLAG, Est: $160 - $250 USD. 1943 fake date & bogus 48x86cm.
******************************************
.......... OLDFLAGSWANTED ...........
(below) 71. FIB" Pola, Italian maker, *nordy6, Fuhrer Std, t=760167.

**oldflagswanted** · 09-29-2019, 04:37 AM

63b tag addition ...

63b. Fahnenfabrik Mehn, Jnhaber:Erich Brothe, Braunschweig,
.... Seit 1890, *Discostu, t=337674, (tag) swastika flag.
..........
(My 1st WAF Avatar)
................................ All feel free to add more. ..........................
-------------------( 09-29-19 update, real count=71+ )------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW ob (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed = ob, or just *OFW
2b. Fahnen-Hoffmann, label, t=23469 *Seba (bullion Fuhrer standard)
2c. Fahnen-Hoffmann Berlin S.W.68 ges.gesch, label, *paulj (Zeppelin)
3. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (stamped & sewn label), *OFW (Gosch)
3b. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rhein, WAF t=431919, *OFW(HmEK)
3c. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (label), *negative1 (RDF) post #146.
3d. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, *glaser, but after WW2,
real, but reported as Flottenstander from Officer of Bundesmarine
S-boat P6089, and used in the 1960's.

3e. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, red bevo lettering on
white sewn on label, stamped 1/65 date & NATO #8345-12-120-6330,
*Von Thronstahl (Geschw.stdr.) from WAF t=716477
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp. Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW (Gosch, RKF)
5. Neue Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW confirmed (RKF)
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW observed
7. Lorenz Summa Söhne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (Gosch & RKF flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
8b. Fahnen Richter gegr 1869 Koln8, *OFW (tag on 1st patrn RKF)
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW observed (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW observed
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW observed
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Württembergische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW(GA)
15. Fahnenfabrika A. Dreyer Hildesheim gege. 1881, *RUHL13, RKF
16. N.V.P.F. vVlissingen & Co's Katoenfabr: Helmond (Holland), *kk, RKF,
..... G.FL, Pieter Fentener van Vlissingen & Co. Cotton Factory (t=641149)
17. Witte K.G. Munchen, *OFW observed, (RKF, & rarer pattern RKF's)
18. Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf (HTR), *OFW ob (RKF)
19. WFT (triangle logo), *OFW observed (RKF & RDF)
20. Fahnen-Kreisel, (corrected), *OFW observed (RKF)
21. P&Co, *rhudspith, (KM Signal Flags)
22p. Gabriel Herest A.G. Konstenz, *T_E, (RKF, p=pending full review)
23. Koechlin, Baumgarlner u. Cie.A.G. Lorrach, *OFW (U-boat RKF & RDF)
24. KRESS St. Tönis [in block], confirmed, *Merdock & *OFW (RDF)
25. Flaggenfabrik Arfelstedt & Hornung Hamburg+Altona, *OFW (G)
26. DFS (flag tag) Duisburger Fahnenfabrik M.Steinmetz, *OFW (RKF)
27. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, *OFW (RDF HHA#8454)
27b. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, Reiss-Schutz DRGM, tag,*OFW (RDF)
27c. Küpper & Rudolph, Reiss-Schutz D.R.G.M., tag,*hdmarley (RDF)
28. Schäelffer (HTR?) Nossen, *OFW (RDF)
29. Fahnen-Fleck Hamburg 11 Rödingsmarkt 1, tag,*OFW (Gosch)
29b. Fahnen-Fleck Rödingsmarkt1 Hamburg11 Burstah Eck, tag *Faz73
30. Curt Bräutigam (over) Plauen. Vogtland, *OFW (RKF) vs. Fk2.
30b. Kurt Bräutigam Plauen I. Vogtl., (HTR) t=442400, *Rob on WAF(RKF)
31. Textildruck Arlt Inh. Oskar u. Kurt Arlt Schönheide/Erzgeb. "(RKF)
32. L.Stromeyer & Co Konstanz BA.H.IV, *BKW, (Radio Station marker)
33. dnq.41, t=188834, *BKW (Radio station direction marker "F")
34. J.T.Dobbins Ltd Crown Mills Ardwick Manchester 1943, *Merdock (RKF)
35. New York Navy Yard 1936, *OFW (RKF, sewn 1st Pattern)
36. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *Merdock (NSKK pennant)
36b. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *NBolinger (Swastika pennant)
37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H., tag
.....*OFW (Swastika 3rd Reich National flag = 3RNF)
38. Vereinsartikel Ph.Lennelaub_ Frankfurt a/Main, from WAF t=458411,
.....*OFW (long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
39. Fahnen u. Stickereien Randel Dusseldorf Kasernenstr.23, *caf48, from
..... t=471827(long swastika 3rd Reich National flag/banner, with tag.)
40. Mare Island Navy Yard 1936, *Negative1 (RKF, 1st Pattern) "wmtf" post #109
41. Königsberger Segelkickwaren-und flaggenfabrik, J.E.W. Hellgardt
..... A.-G. Königsberg i./PR., darrenbate*, (tag on RDF) "wmtf" post 138.
42. Buntstoff Berlin, *behblc (300x500 Göschen=Bow Jack) t=474334
43. Fahnen Werkstätten Heber Gestickte Flaggen u. Behänge
..... Markneukirchen, tag, *BC, (Eagle Podium banner) t=390577
44. To-Go Patentamt gesch. Walther Goldbach Berlin Wilmersdorf,
.... *Patrick_W, (gray army officer on duty auto fender pennant)
44b. Walther Goldbach Berlin-Wilmersdorf1, *RW, (DDAC celluloid AFT)
45. "FIB" Pola, on a super size 500cm printed AH Standard, *OFW.
46. Heinrich Zeisig Fahnenfabrik, Breslau 1, nur Junkernstr.7
..... DRL flag on pole, *Ordensritter.
47. Hannoversche Fahnenfabrik, *WhisperX27, (Gosch)
48. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg Pr,*patriote3945, t=514201(yacht pennant)
48b. Ernst Benrowitz, Konigsberg-Hamburg, *TC, (Weimar RKF)
49. Fahnen-Oster Köln, t=615320, *juno44 (podium banner)
50. Plüschweberei Grefrath (plush weave), *Eljabanebre, (RKF) t=642818
51. Fahnenträger, *XxAmilcaRxX, (RKF 200x335cm) t=666238
52. Fahnen-Walter Auerbach I.V., tag, *flatlander, (HJ) t=675770
53. Berlin Max Küst tag, 11x16, *OFW, t=675831 (NSFK Pennant)
54. Textilindustrie G.Bukiet Litzmannstadt, *OFW, (RKF)
55. Fahnen Fadik D. Koch Coberg, *espenlaub, (1930 vet flag)
56. Hallesche Fahnenfabrik, Halle A.S., *RW, (Swaz pennant)
57. Klinger, with KM stamp, * michiel01 t=564994 (signal pennants)
58. Lanex, with KM "M" stamp, * darrenbate t=745272 (signal pennants)
59. Leo Goedeckemeyer, Freiburg/Br.EggStr.3, *hdmarley (Hunting Flag)
.... sewn on maker label ref. WAF t=765138.
60. S.A.-Mann Herman Tschunden, Ad *GS, t=773758, post #11.,
.... Hakenkreuz-Hausfahnen. (on flag marking unknown).
61. Jos.Fssels, Wascheausstattung, M.Gladbach, tag.*OFW, (3RNF)
62. Fahnen Reinecke Hannover, *james s., t=791146b, (RDF tag).
63. Fahnenfabrik Mehn Braunschweig, *Discostu, t=837674, (tag).
63b. Fahnenfabrik Mehn, Jnhaber: Erich Brothe, Braunschweig,
.... Seit 1890, *Discostu, t=337674, (tag) swastika flag.
64. J.Gross Nachfolgen Stetter, Mannheim, *anton67, t=839188, (tag).
64b. STETTER J. Gross Nachfolger Marktplatz F.2.6, (tag), *Milton,
..... from t=916381, (Swastika banner 14"x24").
65. Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegr 1867 Flaggenfabrik, *ff1, SF (tag).
65p. Flaggenfabrik Gath & Peine Hamburg Gegrundet 1867, RKF (tag).
66p. Henrich Muller Munchen, pending photo comfirmation, HJ.
67. Westdeutsche Fahnen-Fabrik Bonn, *Sasktraveler, HPSignal (tag).
68. Karl Moser Offenbach-M Fahnen- Vereinsartikel, *Wenzel, DRL (tag).
69. Gebr. Forster Fahnenfabrik 1939, *MJD,

Balken Cross ID (stamp).
70. "Der Stahlhof" Magdeburg Ges. Gesch. N.S.D.F.B. (Stahlhelm) Flagge
..... *Howard Kelley, 2007 t=248350 (tag on pennant).
71. FIB" Pola, Italian maker, *nordy6, Fuhrer Standard t=760167, (tag).
-----------------------( maker rarity ranking )-----------------------------
A. Often seen: 2, 2b(tag), 2c,(tag), 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17.
B. Sometimes seen: 1, 3,3b,3c, 5, 11, 15, 17 trans pattern RKF, 19, 21.
C. Seldom seen: 8b(tag), 9, 10, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32, 33, 36(tag), 37(tag),
....38(tag), 44, 49, 52(tag), 3d(after WW2 tag), 54, 57, 58, 62(tag),
....64(tag), 64b(tag), 68 (tag), 69 (stamp), 70 (tag), 71 (tag).
D. Ultra-rare: 18, 23, 25, 26&b(tag), 27&b/c(tag), 29&b(tag), 30, 30b,
....31,39(tag), 47, 48, 48b(tag), 53(tag), 56(tag), 59 (tag), 63&b(tag).
E. The rarest: 34, 35, 40, 41(tag), 42, 43(tag), Ot14, 50, 51,
....61&65(tag).
------------------------[ Other ID Means ]----------------------------------
Others: some indirect by RZM tag numbers (^=no photo yet posted)
Ot1. A4#308, Chr. Heinrich Arnold Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, changed to
....... Coburger & Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, ^Gefolgschaft on WAF, (HJ)
Ot2. Bernhard Richter Fahnenfabrik Coln, est.1869, Grossherzl. Mecklog.
....... Hotlieferant (sewn tag),*OFW (WW1 tri-color IC center Gosch)
Ot3. Fahnen Fleck, Hamburg (e.1882), *OFW (Army unit flags: F&S)
Ot4. Bildgiesserie KRAAS, Berlin, (estb.1883), *OFW (Army " tops)
Ot5. New Möeller GMBH #5001 snap hook vs. t=421850 *kk (on
....... pennants)
Ot6. NMM, NSDAP top, real=left & center, fake on right. *OFW (1st pattern)
Ot7. RZM N & P tags, examples used on flags, *OFW (DAF & HJ)
Ot8. Fringe examples used on flags, *OFW (Orts & Podium banners)
Ot9. Kriegsmarine marking examples used on flags, *OFW (RKF, etc.)
Ot10. NSKOV Pole Top, Ges.Gesch Otto Gahr designer marked, *OFW
Ot11. RZM M3/27, Schmidt Söhne J.H. Isarlohen, *OFW (pole tops)
Ot12. NSDAP-Tirol-Vorarlberg Gaupropaganda-Amt, *OFW (3RNF)
Ot13. Italian made with Napoli City Property stamp, *OFW ( 3RNF)
Ot14. WW2 Japanese made German RKF, *IWSS, from t=460051
Ot15. "Sächsische Fahnenfabrik Georg Lange & Ottomar Kneiss",
....... 1932 or 1933 in Leipzig.*WAB, (vet top), from WAF t=561415
......... like #91-OFW* pole top collection.
Ot16. Artist: Berthold Rungas, Designer Priessmann, Bauer & Co.
....... Munchen, (RNS top), from WAF t=507404
Ot17. Deutsche Arbeit, Bevo woven generic made in Germany tag?,
....... *inimicus, (DAF CPF), from WAF t=587212
Ot18. KM Black Signal Flag, U-Boat Surrender type from t=800716.
Ot19. WW2 period snap hooks, (cp-flags, pennants, pb's t=943508)
--------------------------[ Fakes ] ---------------------------------------
Fakes known: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with single end dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen I. Vogtl., landeskreis, *OFW (SS, RKF, HJ)
Fk3. NMM (no maker mark) Reichskriegsfahne 60x90, *OFW (Delta RKF)
--------> Note: ALL 60x90 FLAGS ARE FAKES, see t=694529 <--------
Fk3a. Fake RKF, 60x90, with bogus KM Eagle "M" stamp, *OFW, t=513875.
Fk3b. Fake RKF, 90x150, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3c. NMN Fake SS, 60x90, *TonyS, t=675999 (SS bolts on black)
Fk3d. Fake RKF, 90x145, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3e. Fake RKF, ~61x88cm, 1st pattern, bad marking, *Normandy, t=831734
Fk3f. R.Badermann Wien 4/42, 84cm long, *upbeck, (RKF) t=962961.
Fk3g. Fake SS-BW Posen, 40x60, *Iserlohn, post #385, (SS & skull)
Fk3h. Fake RKF (IC Center), marked 1943, 85x150, Munchen. See
..... WAF t=992482 for more details.
Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg and Kiel.
..... See WAF t=1010171 for more details.
Fk4. M9/25, 60x90 (WAF T=335496), *OFW (Delta, Soldatenbundes)
Fk4b. " with NS Soldatenbund fake marking, *OFW " from t=509449
..... and additional examples shown in WAF t=745222 and t=807943.
Fk5. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 60x90 (invalid size), *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk5b. Walter Buch Heilbronn, 60x90, *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk6. 1942. B.16. HK., *OFW (RKF fake, with one off added marking)
Fk7. NMM, leather triangle corners & strings, *OFW (RKF P1/P2, 1970's Japan made)
Fk7b. NSKK M-76, " Modern Japan made, *jmcm, from t=580774.
Fk7c. NSKK Berlin, Modern Japan made, *Buhrkall, from t=669490
Fk7d. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7e. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7f. Adolf Hitler Standard, Modern Japan made, *Craig H t=833290
Fk7g. Naval Reserve Officer Commanding, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7h. RDF (eagle in canton) , Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk8. DKM 1937, from WAF thread #421749, *OFW (RKF)
Fk9. III/1, heavy bullion wire corner patch numbers, *OFW(Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk10. IV+Skull, heavy bullion wire corner patch *OFW (Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk11. I/SS2, SS non-wire corner patch numbers & bogus markings,
..... NSDAP, ORGANISATION M9/26, WAF t=373675, *OFW (SS-SBF)
Fk12. NMM, dark underwing and poor baton detail, *OFW (small GA)
Fk13. NMM, Heeresgruppe SS, bogus stamp marked, *OFW (AGrp)
Fk14. NMM, 48x90 bogus size marking, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14b. M/9, Schutzstaffel N/58, t=313905, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14c. Like Fk14b, except chest & white in wreath, 60x90, *OFW"
Fk14d. Variation of Fk14c, black eye, extra claws & stamps, *OFW(").
Fk15. NMN, 60x90, " Ordnungspolizei, *OFW (Delta, Police Cmd)
Fk15b. M9/26, 60x90, Ordnungspolizei, *WK (black swaz Police Eagle)
Fk15c. Carl Henkel, Bielefeld, 1940, 75x50, Ordnungspolizei, *OFW.
Fk15d. 60x90, M9/26, DIENSTFLAGGE, *kb, SS-Lager (SS on black)
Fk16. NMM, SS fender flag with bogus eagle & skull, *OFW(SS-Cmd)
Fk16b. NMM, SS auto flag with same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd)
Fk16c. RZM 61/35 bogus tag, same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd penn.)
Fk17. RZM tag series of SS Division auto pennant, *OFW (Delta, ")
Fk18. R.Badermann/Wien 5/41 M9/25, *OFW (Delta, SS-Lah1)
Fk19. NMM, with bogus NSRL stamp, Silesien via WAF t=410363,
..... and shown again on t=460333 (small swastika flag, Delta)
Fk20. Fahnen-Feeken Gethin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (SS & Swaz Bnr.)
Fk20b. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=929357
Fk20c. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=961599
Fk21. NSDAP top, 1st pattern with bogus markings, *OFW (see Ot6)
Fk22. NMM, fake NSDAP GL fender flag, *CD, from t=511407
Fk23. Fahnen-Kley HAMM (Westf.), fake maker tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk24. NVPFv (Holland), real maker #16 but fake tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk25. RZM St 21/36 SS, & 12.SS-Panzer Division Hitler Jugend,
..... fake tags, *LVAZ, (HJ) from t=775238.
Fk26, small table top flags (ttf's) & pennants, printed
.... or embroidered. SW Asia made, some with metal lug end
.... cross rods as seen in t=785055. (SS,KM,Heer, etc.)
Fk27. Different 3rd Reich standards in color on heavy cardstock,
.... etc. 11 inches x 9.5 inches. *OFW, see t=815666 & more.
...."... four differant versions sold by "Insignia Collector's Club" in the
....late 50s/early 60s... ".
Fk28. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 27.0" x 11.5",*OFW (WW1 Lancer pennant),
....see t=815734.
Fk29. NMM, IKF, 60x90cm,*OFW (WW1 War Flag), ... see t=841383.
Fk30. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, "Handelsflaqge mit
.... dem Eiseren Kreuz", Lot 550: THIRD REICH MERCHANT MARINE
.... FLAG, Est: $160 - $250 USD. 1943 fake date & bogus 48x86cm.
******************************************
.......... OLDFLAGSWANTED ...........
(below) 63b. Fahnenfabrik Mehn, Jnhaber:Erich Brothe, Braun-
schweig, .... Seit 1890, *Discostu, t=337674, (tag) swastika flag.

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**oldflagswanted** · 11-01-2019, 06:19 AM

SS Fake Fk3j list addition.

Fk3j. Fake SS Lager, *D-General, t=1021817, Berlin 1940, 55x100.
..........
(My 1st WAF Avatar)
................................ All feel free to add more. ..........................
-------------------( 11-01-19 update, real count=71+ )------------------
--------------------------[ Fakes ] ---------------------------------------
Fakes known: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with single end dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen I. Vogtl., landeskreis, *OFW (SS, RKF, HJ)
Fk3. NMM (no maker mark) Reichskriegsfahne 60x90, *OFW (Delta RKF)
--------> Note: ALL 60x90 FLAGS ARE FAKES, see t=694529 <--------
Fk3a. Fake RKF, 60x90, with bogus KM Eagle "M" stamp, *OFW, t=513875.
Fk3b. Fake RKF, 90x150, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3c. NMN Fake SS, 60x90, *TonyS, t=675999 (SS bolts on black)
Fk3d. Fake RKF, 90x145, Reichskriegsfahne on some, *OFW, t=671639
Fk3e. Fake RKF, ~61x88cm, 1st pattern, bad marking, *Normandy, t=831734
Fk3f. R.Badermann Wien 4/42, 84cm long, *upbeck, (RKF) t=962961.
Fk3g. Fake SS-BW Posen, 40x60, *Iserlohn, post #385, (SS & skull)
Fk3h. Fake RKF (IC Center), marked 1943, 85x150, Munchen. See
..... WAF t=992482 for more details.
Fk3i-&-j. Fake flags marked 1940/41, 85x150, Hamburg and Kiel.
..... See WAF t=1010171 for more details.
Fk3j. Fake SS Lager, *D-General, t=1021817, Berlin 1940, 55x100.
Fk4. M9/25, 60x90 (WAF T=335496), *OFW (Delta, Soldatenbundes)
Fk4b. " with NS Soldatenbund fake marking, *OFW " from t=509449
..... and additional examples shown in WAF t=745222 and t=807943.
Fk5. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 60x90 (invalid size), *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk5b. Walter Buch Heilbronn, 60x90, *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk6. 1942. B.16. HK., *OFW (RKF fake, with one off added marking)
Fk7. NMM, leather triangle corners & strings, *OFW (RKF P1/P2, 1970's Japan made)
Fk7b. NSKK M-76, " Modern Japan made, *jmcm, from t=580774.
Fk7c. NSKK Berlin, Modern Japan made, *Buhrkall, from t=669490
Fk7d. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7e. Hermann Göring Standard, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7f. Adolf Hitler Standard, Modern Japan made, *Craig H t=833290
Fk7g. Naval Reserve Officer Commanding, Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk7h. RDF (eagle in canton) , Modern Japan made, *OFW
Fk8. DKM 1937, from WAF thread #421749, *OFW (RKF)
Fk9. III/1, heavy bullion wire corner patch numbers, *OFW(Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk10. IV+Skull, heavy bullion wire corner patch *OFW (Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk11. I/SS2, SS non-wire corner patch numbers & bogus markings,
..... NSDAP, ORGANISATION M9/26, WAF t=373675, *OFW (SS-SBF)
Fk12. NMM, dark underwing and poor baton detail, *OFW (small GA)
Fk13. NMM, Heeresgruppe SS, bogus stamp marked, *OFW (AGrp)
Fk14. NMM, 48x90 bogus size marking, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14b. M/9, Schutzstaffel N/58, t=313905, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14c. Like Fk14b, except chest & white in wreath, 60x90, *OFW"
Fk14d. Variation of Fk14c, black eye, extra claws & stamps, *OFW(").
Fk15. NMN, 60x90, " Ordnungspolizei, *OFW (Delta, Police Cmd)
Fk15b. M9/26, 60x90, Ordnungspolizei, *WK (black swaz Police Eagle)
Fk15c. Carl Henkel, Bielefeld, 1940, 75x50, Ordnungspolizei, *OFW.
Fk15d. 60x90, M9/26, DIENSTFLAGGE, *kb, SS-Lager (SS on black)
Fk16. NMM, SS fender flag with bogus eagle & skull, *OFW(SS-Cmd)
Fk16b. NMM, SS auto flag with same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd)
Fk16c. RZM 61/35 bogus tag, same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd penn.)
Fk17. RZM tag series of SS Division auto pennant, *OFW (Delta, ")
Fk18. R.Badermann/Wien 5/41 M9/25, *OFW (Delta, SS-Lah1)
Fk19. NMM, with bogus NSRL stamp, Silesien via WAF t=410363,
..... and shown again on t=460333 (small swastika flag, Delta)
Fk20. Fahnen-Feeken Gethin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (SS & Swaz Bnr.)
Fk20b. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=929357
Fk20c. Fahnen-Feeken Genthin Perchenstr.34, *OFW (Swaz.) t=961599
Fk21. NSDAP top, 1st pattern with bogus markings, *OFW (see Ot6)
Fk22. NMM, fake NSDAP GL fender flag, *CD, from t=511407
Fk23. Fahnen-Kley HAMM (Westf.), fake maker tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk24. NVPFv (Holland), real maker #16 but fake tag, *OFW (RKF)
Fk25. RZM St 21/36 SS, & 12.SS-Panzer Division Hitler Jugend,
..... fake tags, *LVAZ, (HJ) from t=775238.
Fk26, small table top flags (ttf's) & pennants, printed
.... or embroidered. SW Asia made, some with metal lug end
.... cross rods as seen in t=785055. (SS,KM,Heer, etc.)
Fk27. Different 3rd Reich standards in color on heavy cardstock,
.... etc. 11 inches x 9.5 inches. *OFW, see t=815666 & more.
...."... four differant versions sold by "Insignia Collector's Club" in the
....late 50s/early 60s... ".
Fk28. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 27.0" x 11.5",*OFW (WW1 Lancer pennant),
....see t=815734.
Fk29. NMM, IKF, 60x90cm,*OFW (WW1 War Flag), ... see t=841383.
Fk30. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn Postfach 344, "Handelsflaqge mit
.... dem Eiseren Kreuz", Lot 550: THIRD REICH MERCHANT MARINE
.... FLAG, Est: $160 - $250 USD. 1943 fake date & bogus 48x86cm.
******************************************
.......... OLDFLAGSWANTED ...........
(below) Fk3j. Fake SS Lager, *D-General, t=1021817, Berlin 1940, 55x100.

**jack1** · 11-01-2019, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post

#37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H.
Again, feel free to add more examples with confirmation photos (*).
-----------------( 8-12-10 update, real count=37 )--------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW ob (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed = ob, or just *OFW
2b. Fahnen-Hoffmann, label, t=23469 *Seba (bullion Fuhrer standard)
3. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rh (stamped & sewn label), *OFW (Gosch)
3b. Bonner Fahnenfabrik Bonn a. Rhein, WAF t=431919, *OFW(HmEK)
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp. Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW (Gosch, RKF)
5. Neue Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW confirmed (RKF)
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW observed
7. Lorenz Summa Söhne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (Gosch & RKF flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
8b. Fahnen Richter gegr 1869 Koln8, *OFW (tag on 1st patrn RKF)
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW observed (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW observed
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW observed
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Württembergische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW(GA)
15. Fahnenfabrika A. Dreyer Hildesheim gege. 1881, *RUHL13, RKF
16. N.V.P.F vVlissingen & Co's Katoenfabk Helmond (Holland), *kk, RKF
17. Witte K.G. Munchen, *OFW observed, (RKF)
18. Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf (HTR), *OFW ob (RKF)
19. WFT (triangle logo), *OFW observed (RKF & RDF)
20. Fahnen-Kreisel, (corrected), *OFW observed (RKF)
21. P&Co, *rhudspith, (KM Signal Flags)
22p. Gabriel Herest A.G. Konstenz, *T_E, (RKF, pending full review)
23. Koechlin, Baumgarlner u. Cie.A.G. Lorrach, *OFW (U-Boat RKF)
24. KRESS St. Tönis [in block], confirmed, *Merdock & *OFW (RDF)
25. Flaggenfabrik Arfelstedt & Hornung Hamburg+Altona, *OFW (G)
26. DFS (flag tag) Duisburger Fahnenfabrik M.Steinmetz, *OFW (RKF)
27. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, *OFW (RDF HHA#8454)
27b. Küpper & Rudolph Köln, Reiss-Schutz DRGM, tag,*OFW (RDF)
28. Schäelffer (HTR?) Nossen, *OFW (RDF)
29. Fahnen-Fleck Hamburg 11 Rödingsmarkt 1, tag,*OFW (Gosch)
29b. Fahnen-Fleck Rödingsmarkt1 Hamburg11 Burstah Eck, tag *Faz73
30. Curt Bräutigam (over) Plauen. Vogtland, *OFW (RKF) vs. Fk2.
30b. Kurt Bräutigam Plauen. Vogtl., (HTR) t=442400, *Rob on WAF(RKF)
31. Textildruck Arlt Inh. Oskar u. Kurt Arlt Schönheide/Erzgeb. "(RKF)
32. L.Stromeyer & Co Konstanz BA.H.IV, *BKW, (Radio Station marker)
33. dnq.41, t=188834, *BKW (Radio station direction marker "F")
34. J.T.Dobbins Ltd Crown Mills Ardwick Manchester 1943, *Merdock (RKF)
35. New York Navy Yard 1936, *OFW (RKF, sewn 1st Pattern)
36. echt hamburger netz, sewn on label, *Merdock (NSKK pennant)
37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H., tag
.....*OFW (Swastika 3rd Reich National flag)
-----------------------( maker rarity ranking )------------------------
A. Often seen: 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17.
B. Sometimes seen: 1, 3 & 3b, 5, 11, 15, 19, 21.
C. Seldom seen: 8b(tag), 9, 10, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32, 33, 36(tag), 37(tag).
D. Ultra-rare: 18, 23, 25, 26&b(tag), 27&b(tag), 29&b(tag), 30, 30b, 31.
E. The rarest: 34, 35.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Others: some indirect by RZM tag numbers (^=no photo yet posted)
Ot1. A4#308, Chr. Heinrich Arnold Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, changed to
..... Coburger & Thuringer Fahnenfabrik, ^Gefolgschaft on WAF, (HJ)
Ot2. Bernhard Richter Fahnenfabrik Coln, est.1869, Grossherzl. Mecklog.
..... Hotlieferant (sewn tag),*OFW (WW1 tri-color IC center Gosch)
Ot3. Fahnen Fleck, Hamburg (e.1882), *OFW (Army unit flags: F&S)
Ot4. Kraas Bildgiesserie, Berlin, (estb.1883), *OFW (Army " tops)
Ot5. New Möeller GMBH #5001 snap hook vs. t=421850 *kk(on pennants)
Ot6. NMM, NSDAP top, real=left & center, fake on right. *OFW (1st pattern)
Ot7. RZM N & P tags, examples used on flags, *OFW (DAF & HJ)
Ot8. Fringe examples used on flags, *OFW (Orts & Podium banners)
Ot9. Kriegsmarine marking examples used on flags, *OFW (RKF, etc.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fakes known: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with single end dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen Vogtl landeskreis, *OFW (SS Lager & RKF)
Fk3. NMM (no maker mark) Reichskriegsfahne 60x90, *OFW (Delta RKF)
Fk4. M9/25, 60x90 (WAF T=335496), *OFW (Delta, Soldatenbundes)
Fk5. Philipp Bouhler Kiel, 60x90 (invalid size), *OFW (Delta, Alten Garde)
Fk6. 1942. B.16. HK., *OFW (RKF fake, with one off added marking)
Fk7. NMM, leather triangle corners & strings, *OFW (RKF, Japan made)
Fk8. DKM 1937, from WAF thread #421749, *OFW (RKF)
Fk9. III/1, heavy bullion wire corner patch numbers, *OFW(Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk10. IV+Skull, heavy bullion wire corner patch *OFW (Pk, SS-SBF)
Fk11. I/SS2, SS non-wire corner patch numbers & bogus markings,
..... NSDAP, ORGANISATION M9/26, WAF t=373675, *OFW (SS-SBF)
Fk12. NMM, dark underwing and poor baton detail, *OFW (small GA)
Fk13. NMM, Heeresgruppe SS, bogus stamp marked, *OFW (AGrp)
Fk14. NMM, 48x90 bogus size marking, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14b. M/9, Schutzstaffel N/58, t=313905, *OFW (Delta, SS-Cmd)
Fk14c. Like Fk14b, except chest & white in wreath, 60x90, *OFW (Delta, ")
Fk14d. Variation of Fk14c, black eye, extra claws & stamps, *OFW(").
Fk15. NMN, 60x90 " Ordnungspolizei, *OFW (Delta, Police Cmd)
Fk16. NMM, SS fender flag with bogus eagle & skull, *OFW(SS-Cmd)
Fk16b. NMM, SS auto flag with same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd)
Fk16c. RZM 61/35 bogus tag, same Fk16 eagle, *OFW (SS-Cmd penn.)
Fk17. RZM tag series of SS Division auto pennant, *OFW (Delta, ")
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Real SS-SBF (Sturmbannfahnen), count at 20 SS battalion flags
S1. I/5, 1st pattern, formerly *OFW via Klenau Munich Auction
S2. Signal Bn 4, 2nd pattern, *=photo confirmed, OFW c.1975
S3. Signal Bn 14, 2nd pattern, *book, held by visor hat guy.
S4. I/17, 1st pattern, *EA on WAF
S5. III/43, 1st pattern, *for sale online at $12K-USD
S6. II/47, 1st pattern, *O-J on WAF
S7. III/55, *walker flag book
S8. III/59, * believed to be one sold in H-Historica Auction
S9. II/72, 2nd pattern, *OFW c.1975
S10. III/82, no photo yet, WAF-Silesien sold 1986 $2600
S11. I/101, 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S12. III/101, 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S13. III/104, 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S14. I/106, 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S15. III/106, 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S16. I/107, 2nd pattern, *OFW c.1975, traded off
S17. III/4+Skull (TK-SS), 2nd pattern, *BH on WAF
S18. II/4+Skull (TK-SS), 2nd pattern, *DS on WAF
S19. II/SS2 (VT-SS), 2nd pattern, *OFW observed
S20. I/103, 2nd pattern, $2.5K Manion 1994. *Silesien-WAF
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......... OLDFLAGSWANTED .........

#37. Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H.

Is this ok.

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**oldflagswanted** · 11-01-2019, 04:36 PM

#37b variation addition.

Originally posted by jack1 View Post

Is this ok.
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Yes, IMO an authentic variation of #37, as per post 97 shown below.
(above) #37b= Kaüfhaus Domstr.57/67 Kölner Fabrik-Engros-Lager G.M.B.H.
OFW

**jack1** · 11-01-2019, 04:38 PM

Thank you very much indeed.

**waffendude** · 11-03-2019, 01:42 PM

How about this label on a state service flag?
Thanks
Mike

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**oldflagswanted** · 11-03-2019, 05:09 PM

#18b, a variation addition.

Originally posted by waffendude View Post

How about this label on a state service flag?
Thanks
Mike

Hello Mike:
IMO a variation of "wmtf" maker #18. =
Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf
OFW
(below) A variation, now maker #18b tag.

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**waffendude** · 11-03-2019, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post

Hello Mike:
IMO a variation of "wmtf" maker #18. =
Düsseldorfer Fahnenfabrik , m. Düsseldorf
OFW
(below) A variation, now maker #18b tag.

Thank you

**oldflagswanted** · 01-12-2020, 05:03 PM

Authentic SS Lager Flag ...

... approximately 6 x 10' (180 x 300 cm) with
reinforced hoist corners, loop end rope, and
fly end Corner stitching. $6000 (e-stand Sold)
OFW
(below) paulj listing photos repeated for future reference.

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**Niko** · 01-31-2020, 11:23 AM

NSDAP flag

Hellou! My first post. Im interesting to buy nsdap flag, or kriegsflagge. I maybe buy this one, but not sure if it is authentic. I have few photos of it. Can anyone help me with that, is it fake? The stitching is not in line with the other side, thats why im little confused. And i am amateur with flags, so all help is needed. I have only these 4 photos if it.

Best Regards
Niko

EDIT: Dont know why the pics came so big sizes

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