Sturmpistole

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Got this and I would like to share, any comment is appreciated.

Giorgio

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

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[BrunoH]

Hi,
It seems to be a very nice set.
Was the flare gun found with the two pieces ? Or is it coming from an other source ?
Regards

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Hi,
It seems to be a very nice set.
Was the flare gun found with the two pieces ? Or is it coming from an other source ?
Regards

the flare gun that came with this is one other and has a big Z stamped on it but is almost mint and did not wanted to scratched so I install this on and old one I had

Giorgio

[BrunoH]

Lucky guy !!!

Usually, what you have find is the accessories that transform a flare gun into a Sturmpistole and it should have a internal sleeve in its barrel.

The other one, with the 'Z' stamped, is a Kampfpistole (any picture would be welcome ) and doesn't need the system of sight and the stick.

Well.. two very nice pieces that would make a lot of collectors a little bit jealous ...

Regards

More info there: http://leuchtpistole.free.fr/Sommair...rmpistole.html

[novedvory]

copied from an old original one dug found in the 80's

beware of that.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/stock-Z-pist...item3a7e732069

[Frank De Smedt]

Lucky guy !!!

Usually, what you have find is the accessories that transform a flare gun into a Sturmpistole and it should have a internal sleeve in its barrel.

The other one, with the 'Z' stamped, is a Kampfpistole (any picture would be welcome ) and doesn't need the system of sight and the stick.

Well.. two very nice pieces that would make a lot of collectors a little bit jealous ...

Regards

More info there: http://leuchtpistole.free.fr/Sommair...rmpistole.html

The Z in this pistol is not from Züge but from Zink.
Z is stamped in the grip not in the barrel like for a kampfpistole.
The Lp should normally have a Zink barrel as well.

FRANK

[BrunoH]

Frank,
I'm agree with you but when I see the above message from member Italienfront, I understand he is talking about an other flare gun (not shown in these pictures) with a big Z. Usually, Zink flare guns have a 'small' z compared to the 'Züge' one, do I may a mistake ? We need other picture of the original Leuchtpistole...
Best regards

[SIGNALMAN]

Sorry to say, but the Sturmpistole stock and sight are definitely fake. I would like to show the difference as I have both an original and fake in my collection, however, I do not want to give away the differences to the individuals making the fakes.

Of course, the gun itself is real.

I would be especially wary of ANY Sturmpistole with the Tan Africa Corps type paint, as virtually all of the repro's have been painted as such. I have not seen a real one to date with that paint.

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Sorry to say, but the Sturmpistole stock and sight are definitely fake. I would like to show the difference as I have both an original and fake in my collection, however, I do not want to give away the differences to the individuals making the fakes.

Of course, the gun itself is real.

I would be especially wary of ANY Sturmpistole with the Tan Africa Corps type paint, as virtually all of the repro's have been painted as such. I have not seen a real one to date with that paint.

well if you make a statement like this you have to show the evidence please.
I found this on the net in the original box and looks like the one I posted.
Thank you

Giorgio

http://www.leuchtpistolen.de/Sturmpi...29f0865ed6130/

[Willi Z.]

My first thoughts were that the stock and sights are fake. Sorry. These items have been heavily, and rather accurately, faked. I too don't like the paint and have never seen an original in ordnance tan. My opinion and experience to date.

There will be a collector, who I see at many shows, who is the most advanced collector of flare guns and accessories IMO at the SOS and I would ask him. Greg Baker is his name.

I also would have nothing to do with that one in the case. The case is very bogus.

Giorgio, with all due respect, how does one provide evidence? Handling a known original is how we learn the most about much of this stuff.

[Willi Z.]

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[ITALIANWARFRONT]

My first thoughts were that the stock and sights are fake. Sorry. These items have been heavily, and rather accurately, faked. I too don't like the paint and have never seen an original in ordnance tan. My opinion and experience to date.

There will be a collector, who I see at many shows, who is the most advanced collector of flare guns and accessories IMO at the SOS and I would ask him. Greg Baker is his name.

I also would have nothing to do with that one in the case. The case is very bogus.

Giorgio, with all due respect, how does one provide evidence? Handling a known original is how we learn the most about much of this stuff.

You guys are probably right, I never had one before so I would not have idea but I was just asking for pictures and the one in the box if is a fake is a very good one complete with case and papers

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

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[SIGNALMAN]

I have known Wolfgang for a long time and do search his site every month or so.

I had doubts about the boxes when I first saw them. Although I do not own one, I have seen several originals.

I told Wolfgang the Sturmpistole stock and sight were not correct, but I believe he still sold them as consignment items. Note the price was not that far off from other fakes.


Willi Z, I like your folding front sight that you pictured.