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    #1

    Sturmpistole

    Got this and I would like to share, any comment is appreciated.

    Giorgio
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      #3
      Hi,
      It seems to be a very nice set.
      Was the flare gun found with the two pieces ? Or is it coming from an other source ?
      Regards

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        #4
        Originally posted by BrunoH View Post
        Hi,
        It seems to be a very nice set.
        Was the flare gun found with the two pieces ? Or is it coming from an other source ?
        Regards
        the flare gun that came with this is one other and has a big Z stamped on it but is almost mint and did not wanted to scratched so I install this on and old one I had

        Giorgio

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          #5
          Lucky guy !!!

          Usually, what you have find is the accessories that transform a flare gun into a Sturmpistole and it should have a internal sleeve in its barrel.

          The other one, with the 'Z' stamped, is a Kampfpistole (any picture would be welcome ) and doesn't need the system of sight and the stick.

          Well.. two very nice pieces that would make a lot of collectors a little bit jealous ...

          Regards

          More info there: http://leuchtpistole.free.fr/Sommair...rmpistole.html

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            #6
            copied from an old original one dug found in the 80's

            beware of that.
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/stock-Z-pist...item3a7e732069

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              #7
              Originally posted by BrunoH View Post
              Lucky guy !!!

              Usually, what you have find is the accessories that transform a flare gun into a Sturmpistole and it should have a internal sleeve in its barrel.

              The other one, with the 'Z' stamped, is a Kampfpistole (any picture would be welcome ) and doesn't need the system of sight and the stick.

              Well.. two very nice pieces that would make a lot of collectors a little bit jealous ...

              Regards

              More info there: http://leuchtpistole.free.fr/Sommair...rmpistole.html
              The Z in this pistol is not from Züge but from Zink.
              Z is stamped in the grip not in the barrel like for a kampfpistole.
              The Lp should normally have a Zink barrel as well.

              FRANK

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                #8
                Frank,
                I'm agree with you but when I see the above message from member Italienfront, I understand he is talking about an other flare gun (not shown in these pictures) with a big Z. Usually, Zink flare guns have a 'small' z compared to the 'Züge' one, do I may a mistake ? We need other picture of the original Leuchtpistole...
                Best regards

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                  #9
                  Sorry to say, but the Sturmpistole stock and sight are definitely fake. I would like to show the difference as I have both an original and fake in my collection, however, I do not want to give away the differences to the individuals making the fakes.

                  Of course, the gun itself is real.

                  I would be especially wary of ANY Sturmpistole with the Tan Africa Corps type paint, as virtually all of the repro's have been painted as such. I have not seen a real one to date with that paint.

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                    Originally posted by SIGNALMAN View Post
                    Sorry to say, but the Sturmpistole stock and sight are definitely fake. I would like to show the difference as I have both an original and fake in my collection, however, I do not want to give away the differences to the individuals making the fakes.

                    Of course, the gun itself is real.

                    I would be especially wary of ANY Sturmpistole with the Tan Africa Corps type paint, as virtually all of the repro's have been painted as such. I have not seen a real one to date with that paint.
                    well if you make a statement like this you have to show the evidence please.
                    I found this on the net in the original box and looks like the one I posted.
                    Thank you

                    Giorgio

                    http://www.leuchtpistolen.de/Sturmpi...29f0865ed6130/

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                      #11
                      My first thoughts were that the stock and sights are fake. Sorry. These items have been heavily, and rather accurately, faked. I too don't like the paint and have never seen an original in ordnance tan. My opinion and experience to date.

                      There will be a collector, who I see at many shows, who is the most advanced collector of flare guns and accessories IMO at the SOS and I would ask him. Greg Baker is his name.

                      I also would have nothing to do with that one in the case. The case is very bogus.

                      Giorgio, with all due respect, how does one provide evidence? Handling a known original is how we learn the most about much of this stuff.
                      Willi

                      Preußens Gloria!

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                      Sapere aude

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                        Willi

                        Preußens Gloria!

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                        Sapere aude

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                          Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post
                          My first thoughts were that the stock and sights are fake. Sorry. These items have been heavily, and rather accurately, faked. I too don't like the paint and have never seen an original in ordnance tan. My opinion and experience to date.

                          There will be a collector, who I see at many shows, who is the most advanced collector of flare guns and accessories IMO at the SOS and I would ask him. Greg Baker is his name.

                          I also would have nothing to do with that one in the case. The case is very bogus.

                          Giorgio, with all due respect, how does one provide evidence? Handling a known original is how we learn the most about much of this stuff.
                          You guys are probably right, I never had one before so I would not have idea but I was just asking for pictures and the one in the box if is a fake is a very good one complete with case and papers
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                              I have known Wolfgang for a long time and do search his site every month or so.

                              I had doubts about the boxes when I first saw them. Although I do not own one, I have seen several originals.

                              I told Wolfgang the Sturmpistole stock and sight were not correct, but I believe he still sold them as consignment items. Note the price was not that far off from other fakes.


                              Willi Z, I like your folding front sight that you pictured.

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