The SS dagger area is unknown for me, anyway is interesting the handle is made by cheap beech wood? which is already cracked, same as the fitting of eagle on a this is teribble, pinned with a nail?. Certainly a "super rare" piece.
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Originally posted by tobau View PostDagger has a chance.Fit is very good.Don't comment the röhm-inscription-not my field,but want see close up's from the motto inscription and the roundel.Grip colour are washed out in the decades,often seen.May,like Mac says "super rare"one dagger!
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Okay people, these are my 50-cents...
Imo this dagger has a very big chance to be the real deal.
First of all these daggers were made by only two producers. Eickhorn and E.P. & S.
This is the one and only SS Christmas dagger is saw. The others are all SA daggers but were made the same way.
Pack was known to use a nail to attach the eagle. Eickhorn did not use a nail.
Most collectors call these daggers 'prototypes' but I don't think this name is correct as they were eventually given to their recepients which make them 'accepted' examples.
The overall appearance of this dagger has all the Pack features imo.
Discolourized grip which is often see on later SS daggers made by Pack.
The SS roundel is also of the type that is mostly used by Pack.
The cruedly fitting of this eagly can been explaned aswell imo.
These eagle were placed in a handcarved hole in the grip.
I can only imagine how difficult it would be to make a perfect hole and fit of these eagles. As they were all done by hand, there could not be two exactly the same gripeagle fittings. One would be done better and the other will be done worse.
I also think this would have been the reason to use another eagle later on, that would be easier to fit and attach as they innovated their daggers aswell.
The fitting of the grip/quards is very well executed.
Overall, the dagger has that 'nicotine'-patinated appearance.
I would not condamn this piece right away and do further research as it has a very good chance to be a genuine example.
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It defenately looks like a early SA dagger, fitting of eagle is not specially bad in my opinion. The nail on the eagle is also not unusual on theese earliest SA daggers.
Is not cheap beech wood, the crack is exately where you want to see it.
BUT when that said, for the Röhm widmung there where ordered around 100.000 new pcs for the SA people who where members before 1931, SS was under the SA until 1934 so this applied for those members too.
Has anyone ever seen a dagger like this (SA) with the SS rune enamel button and a old style SS dedication ? I have not.
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