Luft tropical overseas cap

[Larry F.]

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[Larry F.]

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[SMP]

Very nice Larry ! Just the condition I like. Unusual maker !

I note #147 is a Graedler. First I've seen of these too.

[Marc verstraete]

I'm posting these pictures for archive purpose....
And to continue the discussion....

Marc

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[teka]

got a good shot now of the inside of my sidecap

Graedla

Be (berlin?) 1941 size 60


John

very nice thread! Do anyone have information regarding the maker posted by John? Any help would be much appreciated!
Cheers
Teka

[FredBayer]

very nice thread! Do anyone have information regarding the maker posted by John? Any help would be much appreciated!
Cheers
Teka

I believe the maker is "Graedler" Berlin. I have one of these sized at
56 1/2 and dated 1941. I'm fairly new to the forum. I'll try to get photos
up but will need to get some help.
Len

[Larry F.]

I believe the maker is "Graedler" Berlin. I have one of these sized at
56 1/2 and dated 1941. I'm fairly new to the forum. I'll try to get photos
up but will need to get some help.
Len

Hi Len,

Welcome to the forum. I agree with you about the cap being a Graedler. I have one too.

Love to see your cap!

[BenVK]

Stuck indoors with the flu right now so had time to research these Berolina stamps some more.

Firstly, I'm surprised no one has commented on how remarkably similar in design the stamp in Larry's cap above is to the Berolino. What is the name in this stamp "Transferstelle" ?

[BenVK]

And now down to the main issue.

From what I can gather from reading this thread and many others, there is one style of Berolina stamp that most collectors accept as original.

This is it.

[BenVK]

Also, from what I've read, the consensus is that the typeface of the numerals is distinctive and should match, the 9 especially.

Problem is that quite often they don't match.

[BenVK]

Then we move onto the stamps that collectors are dubious of, starting with this one where the typeface of the year is a lot different but the stamp design is more or less the same as above. This includes the caps with the size marked in biro or pen. They also all seem to be faded to some degree.

You can see quite clearly that the typeface of the year is larger with the top and bottom in line with the top and bottom of the Berolina Berlin.

[BenVK]

Now we move onto the stamps where the design is different, being a longer box. The year typeface may or may not be that different to ones "considered" authentic.

[BenVK]

Then we've got the anomalies.
The top one speaks for itself.
The other doesn't look too different until you notice that the ends of the Berlin typeface doesn't line up with the Berolina.