Gold Party Badge ??

[ErichS]

What do you Gentlemen think about this one??? I would say, save your money.

http://www.qxl.dk/form/ViewImage.asp...count=2&rank=2

A bad fake.

[der-hase-fee]

24mm Deschler # 10544 'Close to touching'

RIP, John.

This badge is on E-Stand right now: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=935999

Per "Hitlers Politische Generäle" by Karl Höffkes Carl Röver had 10545. Can anyone confirm either way ?

[Br. James]

I add my sincerest "RIP John" to your note, Andreas. We do miss him.

HH auctioned this GPB from John's collection; it's a real beauty. I see that there is disagreement as to Röver's NSDAP Membership Number...Our colleague Michael Miller lists Röver's number as 10544 in his reference book. Perhaps Mike can add a word of clarification here, if he knows why this discrepancy exists?

Br. James

[der-hase-fee]

Thanks for the contribution, James. Hope someone can shed light on this mystery, preferably with a copy of some contemporary documentation.

[Br. James]

I couldn't locate any Golden Party Badges on Brent Smith's website; perhaps it's already sold? There does seem to be a bit of confusion regarding Röver's NSDAP Membership Number:

I understand that Karl Höffkes refers to Röver holding NSDAP Membership Number 10545 in his reference work, "Hitlers politische Generale, Die Gauleiter des Dritten Reiches" (Grabert-Verlag, Tübingen, 1986 and 1997), and David Lyne-Gordon apparently picked that number up in his English language version based upon Höffkes' work titled "Hitler’s Political Generals: The Gauleiters," Vol. 1 (Military Press, UK, 2001). I also have a note that Mike Miller originally listed Röver's NSDAP Number as 10545 on his longstanding website, "Axis Biographical Research," and Mike may have also used Höffkes' work to base that upon. However, when Hermann Historica listed certain articles from John Pepera's massive GPB collection for auction, they stated that badge number 10544 had been held by Karl Röver, which I assume came from John's notes on his badges.

Again, I hope others her can provide further facts to clarify this question. (I imagine that one of us could ask Rob McDivitt or Mike Constandy to check the NSDAP Membership Records at the NARA and see what the official files have to say?!)

Br. James

[TxGauleiter]

Thanks for the contribution, James. Hope someone can shed light on this mystery, preferably with a copy of some contemporary documentation.

There is no "mystery". You and I have corresponded about this badge offline, and as I told you there, Robert McDivitt has confirmed the attribution, yet you continue to feign ignorance. I also told you I would not advertise its attribution if I wasn't sure.

Again, I hope others here can provide further facts to clarify this question. (I imagine that one of us could ask Rob McDivitt or Mike Constandy to check the NSDAP Membership Records at the NARA and see what the official files have to say?!)

Br. James

One of us has.

Mr McDivitt and I had been in communication regarding this badge prior to it's being offered. The official files say that its Röver's. Hence, it's being offered as Röver's.

[Br. James]

Dear friends,

This afternoon I sent an email note to Rob McDivitt, inquiring about the Karl Röver NSDAP Membership Number, and he has responded that it is definitely 10544. Rob also mentioned that the next number -- 10545 -- was held by Röver's wife, Irma, though he didn't say whether she held the GPB or not. (From the Patzwall reference book, we know that she didn't receive the AH Honorary GPB, so if she held it, it was because she was entitled to it by her membership number.) So this puts this particular subject to bed, once and for all, IMHO!

Special thanks to TxGauleiter for his perseverance!

Cheers,

Br. James

[Jon Fish]

Per the seller - Brent - the small version is still available. But yes, the set got split ! Blowing my mind. I can acquire a case file on Hiebel, the original owner of the set, if anyone should be interested.

RIP John P
Please if any member knows the location of Hiebels GPB, number 14297 drop me a line, thank you

[Br. James]

I second that motion, Jon -- "RIP John P." I assume this GPB came from John Pepera's world-class collection? We really do miss him and the depth of his knowledge among us...

Blessings all,

Br. James

[Jon Fish]

I second that motion, Jon -- "RIP John P." I assume this GPB came from John Pepera's world-class collection? We really do miss him and the depth of his knowledge among us...

Blessings all,

Br. James

BR James, I don’t think they were in johns collection, Brett sold them a few years back, maybe 5, and Andreas above says the large and small badge was split up at that point.
Life is short isn’t it

[Br. James]

Sorry, Jon...I misunderstood! I thought you were suggesting that this piece came from John Pepera's vast holdings. And you're so right: Life IS so short!!

Cheers, and a Happy New Year,

Br. James

[Jon Fish]

Sorry, Jon...I misunderstood! I thought you were suggesting that this piece came from John Pepera's vast holdings. And you're so right: Life IS so short!!

Cheers, and a Happy New Year,

Br. James

No problems BR James. They are out there, probably just not in our circles, so have to wait it out and be patient.

[Br. James]

I'm proud to say that I knew John personally...though I never met him face to face...and that I secured one of his Fuess-marked GPBs during the HH auction in May of 2014. He was quite a gentleman and a true asset to our hobby; his absence will be felt forever among us.

Br. James