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    #16
    The eagle pattern was not introduced in 1936, but 1937 with order F 2b 13736 from the OSAF and published as such in June 1937. Actual introduction June 28. The 1936 eagle has shorter wings.

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      #17
      Originally posted by wilhelm Saris View Post
      The eagle pattern was not introduced in 1936, but 1937 with order F 2b 13736 from the OSAF and published as such in June 1937. Actual introduction June 28. The 1936 eagle has shorter wings.
      As always you're right Willem

      It is for this reason that I wrote the "so called M36"...

      In France this type of eagles are very often called "Modèle 36", even if, as said, in the real live it's a 1937 distributed insignia.

      Thanks again

      P.
      Last edited by Pascal Bernhard; 02-04-2019, 07:41 AM.
      Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
      - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Pascal Bernhard View Post
        As always you're right Willem
        It is for this reason that I wrote the "so called M36"...
        In France this type of eagles are very often called "Modèle 36", even if, as said, in the real live it's a 1937 distributed insignia.

        Thanks again P.
        I know, but M36 is anyway a wrong expression. Germans hardly ever did phrase it as "M",
        not for insignia, nor for headgear or whatever. This indication was "invented" after the war.
        Phrasing it as Modèle 36 is of course not correct. If you like it it should be "Modèle 37"!
        Last edited by Pascal Bernhard; 02-04-2019, 07:43 AM.

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          #19
          Hi,

          If I understand correctly I need an eagle like this?

          Right?

          Thanks.
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            #20
            more like this

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=m36+SA+eagle

            or like this, the first in the post...

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=991871

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            Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
            - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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              #21
              Thanks Pascal.
              If someone have one for sale, I'll be interested.
              Thanks.

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                #22
                Hi,

                Does this eagle fit with my SA cap?

                Thanks for your time & help.
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                    #24
                    Yes. IMO that would be fine. Is there evidence that the kepi ever had an eagle installed?
                    Erich
                    Festina lente!

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                      #25
                      Yes Erich.
                      I see that a eagle was present on the cap.

                      Thanks.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Francisque View Post
                        Hi,

                        Does this eagle fit with my SA cap?

                        Thanks for your time & help.
                        Yes, this eagle would fit. But be careful when applying. That is a really nice kepi.

                        By the way, the manufacturer of the eagle was Matthias Öchsler & Sohn from Ansbach. This company was assigned the RZM number M1/14. The company still exists today: https://www.oechsler.com/en/company-group/history/

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                          #27
                          Note the eagle should officially have a wingspan of about 6.5 cm.

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                            #28
                            3 answer of top knowledgeable collector!
                            I feel more comfortable with this eagle now.

                            I'll place it with a lot of precaution & do a photo.

                            Thanks again.

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                              #29
                              I would wait to get a larger wingspan eagle as the holes on your Käpi are not for this type of narrower wingspan ?
                              If you want to restore it as Elsass it will be also a lot more logical for the period represented : 1940-45 .
                              The larger eagle is even a lot more easy to find ! During normal commercial times …
                              Nick

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by GAMS1 View Post
                                I would wait to get a larger wingspan eagle as the holes on your Käpi are not for this type of narrower wingspan ?
                                If you want to restore it as Elsass it will be also a lot more logical for the period represented : 1940-45 .
                                The larger eagle is even a lot more easy to find ! During normal commercial times …
                                Nick
                                Agreed: If you want to restore it as it was before, measure the distance between the 2 pin holes on the front of your cap which would be a good indicator of the proper eagle size. The pin gap would not be the same on the larger type than it was on the previous shorrter version. I also suspect it should be the larger eagle size

                                JC

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