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Oh well
Until next honest mistake
All is good in the hood
Regards
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Silliness Aside
On a serious level, Mr. Gottlieb removed the item from auction, so IMO, there's nothing to sweep. Many dealers would have simply retorted that authenticity is an opinion, and continue to advertise the item. I was one of the 1st people to not like the book, but it's unfair to criticize Mr. Gottlieb, especially after he pulled the item.Comment
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one would think considering the comments posted before you eventuallyOriginally posted by Craig Gottlieb View Post
Felt obliged to respond ,that my and other members comments are in no way out of line..the opposite in fact..
More knowledgeable members than i
Decried this item from the start due to the many obvious mistakes contained
Within..
But I'm just a common collector, what would i possibly understand or know
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yes, pulled..Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
Only after this very informative thread continued
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Yet it was pulled and to continue to try and get a rise from Craig now would seem to be nothing more than trying to stir the pot, something that can get you booted from some sites.....pseudo-expertComment
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don , is this not a double standard ? fritzk was only making the point that this item was only pulled from sale because of questions that were raised in this thread by members. correct me if i am wrong, but his posts were not rude / abusive . but simply pointing out a salient fact in relation to this item . can that now get you booted from some sites ??Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
i know you can get " booted " for crass / rude an abusive posts on some sites.
regards......pavel.Comment
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Here is what is posted on his site where the item is still listed under his document section but without a price: "Please note: This item is currently being discussed as a possible high-end forgery. As such, while it is still being listed here for reference, it is being withdrawn from active sale until a final determination can be made."Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
It appears that what you pointed out in other dealers has occurred here.
And Mr. Doering, I don't see how these comments would be intended to get a rise from Craig as he frequents this forum on a very infrequent basis as he has written. Apparently Craig intends to seek opinion of a higher authority.Comment
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It may have been mentioned before (sorry I couldn't read all the posts) but most of the writting is "Sütterlin" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BCtterlin ) which I would not expect to find in anything from that year (pre 20s) and location (bavaria).
Of course there are numerous other issues with that "gem", many of them have been addressed already.
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If I may be so bold, as an active member of the Political forum that this thread be moved to the correct forum?, the documents/paperwork forum, this will enable members who are interested in signatures/documents to view this and add comments if they so wish? this is not a political item and the thread doesn't seem much about the item anymore in any case, thanks SeanComment
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I agree with Pavel. No-one has been abusive or out-of-order in any way here and certainly not Fraser. I'm sure no-one takes pleasure in finding a dealer peddling fakes, quite the opposite in fact.Originally posted by ppsh33 View Postdon , is this not a double standard ? fritzk was only making the point that this item was only pulled from sale because of questions that were raised in this thread by members. correct me if i am wrong, but his posts were not rude / abusive . but simply pointing out a salient fact in relation to this item . can that now get you booted from some sites ??
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This thread has run it´s course and unfortenately the item seems to be not worth further attention and discussion anymore anyway - it turned out to be a questionable piece to say the least.
In the end Craig made the best out of it and acted in a honest way and has my
for that - I bet everybody would be pleased to see other dealers acting likewise in future as well.
We´ll also see if other dealers are or will be watched likewise.
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Book was questioned. Book was found lacking. Book was pulled. What more is there to say in this thread? I'm sure someone can find another dodgy item somewhere on the internet to talk about......pseudo-expertComment
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In no way am I trying to goad Craig
I was simply stating the blatant points that are wrong with this item
And judging by his pm to myself
It appears he is not as keen on his items being openly
Discussed as he says
Regards
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Not threatening I hope ?
That would be something the Moderators should take VERY seriously.
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