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    Sorry guys I meant to say wehrpass on the 17th SS book I showed not soldbuch.
    Last edited by Dennis S; 09-11-2013, 11:31 AM.

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      Also I would like to clear up the funeral photos. They are not Debica. The funeral is for an Italian from SS wehrgeologen-bataillon-500

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        I posted these on other threads . I think this photo was posted by member T.K. On another forum


        Italian SS members clearly wearing German style smocks in Italian camouflage with m43 and camo style hats
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          Collage of italian SS officers and men . I think the man in the civilian clothes (top right)is the same as the one in the center between the two camo smocked guys in the previous photo.
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            Photo of Ronco Allesandro from the collage
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              Here is a photo that is actually in my collection that I own. It was found in a flea market in Reggio Emilia .

              Most of the others have been harvested from the Internet ,other forums and some of the most recent from a doctoral thesis .

              Notice the skull and partially visible metal on his m42 hat
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                Dear Dennis,

                The military history of the guy wearing the tropical uniform is well known, his name was Cirillo Covallero and he was a member of the SS-Polizei-Division in the Balkans and deserted to join the RSI units. He died in 2009.

                There's another interesting memories book of an italian LSSAH veteran, a former Battaglioni M member by the way; the front cover clearly shows him wearing the runic tab.
                http://www.ibs.it/code/9788842548553...millionen.html
                If I recall correctly at least 2-300 italian men joined the LSSAH, I should check my sources.

                The pictures of the funeral are not related to the Debica, but to the 2.Kp.\SS-Wehrgeologen-Btl. 500 along the valli del Pasubio\north eastern Italy; that unit had some ethnic italians enlisted too.
                That's the funeral of the dolmetscher SS-Schütze Wainer Novellini from Milan, pictures taken on 02.12.1944.

                Ethnic italians joined quite a few WSS divisions; several hundreds of them joined the 24.WGDdSS Karstjaeger (some of them wearing runic tabs), Prinz Eugen, SS-Polizei-Division, Reichsfuhrer-SS and Goetz von Berlichingen just to list a some of them.

                Hope it helps.
                Last edited by PBR; 09-11-2013, 01:29 PM.

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                  Originally posted by Dennis S View Post
                  I posted these on other threads . I think this photo was posted by member T.K. On another forum


                  Italian SS members clearly wearing German style smocks in Italian camouflage with m43 and camo style hats
                  Dear Dennis,

                  Not properly SS, if I recall correctly they are italian men attached to the SD Biella in front of Villa Schneider, their HQ.
                  If I'm not wrong the collage one is not from Avanguardia, but a post war "Wanted" -like poster related to the SD-Biella italian members.

                  Best Regards

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                    Originally posted by T.K. View Post
                    Dear Dennis,

                    The military history of the guy wearing the tropical uniform is well known, his name was Cirillo Covallero and he was a member of the SS-Polizei-Division in the Balkans and deserted to join the RSI units. He died in 2009.

                    There's another interesting memories book of an italian LSSAH veteran, a former Battaglioni M member by the way; the front cover clearly shows him wearing the runic tab.
                    http://www.ibs.it/code/9788842548553...millionen.html
                    If I recall correctly at least 2-300 italian men joined the LSSAH, I should check my sources.

                    The pictures of the funeral are not related to the Debica, but to the 2.Kp.\SS-Wehrgeologen-Btl. 500 along the valli del Pasubio\north eastern Italy; that unit had some ethnic italians enlisted too.
                    That's the funeral of the dolmetscher SS-Schütze Wainer Novellini from Milan, pictures taken on 02.12.1944.

                    Ethnic italians joined quite a few WSS divisions; several hundreds of them joined the 24.WGDdSS Karstjaeger, Prinz Eugen, SS-Polizei-Division, Reichsfuhrer-SS and Goetz von Berlichingen just to list a some of them.

                    Hope it helps.

                    T.K. Yes thanks and I had already corrected the information about the funeral in a later post.
                    I am also aware of the names you sighted. I just didn't post them.
                    I wasn't sure about how Covallero went over to Decima Mas. That's interesting about the deserting to join the RSI. He must have had strong nationalism or was this maybe just post war apology since he actually did not change sides. Do you know how he was recruited? Have you read the doctoral thesis ? Unfortunately I can only take some information as my Italian is little to very little. Knowing only mostly military termonalogy . I was also quite confident he was in the 4th SS Polizei.

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                      Originally posted by Dennis S View Post
                      T.K. Yes thanks and I had already corrected the information about the funeral in a later post.
                      I am also aware of the names you sighted. I just didn't post them.
                      I wasn't sure about how Covallero went over to Decima Mas. That's interesting about the deserting to join the RSI. He must have had strong nationalism or was this maybe just post war apology since he actually did not change sides. Do you know how he was recruited? Have you read the doctoral thesis ? Unfortunately I can only take some information as my Italian is little to very little. Knowing only mostly military termonalogy . I was also quite confident he was in the 4th SS Polizei.
                      Hello Dennis,

                      My comment wasn't meant to correct you, but just to add infos about the pictures you have posted.

                      Covallero was already a member of the 9° Reggimento Alpini at the date of 08.09.1943: following the italian armistice, he was actually deported to Germany were he was asked if he would have liked to join the SS: he agreed and was transferred to the SS-Polizei-Division fighting in the Balkans.
                      In 1944 he was moved to Pinerolo only God knows why, and there he deserted to the XMas: then he was sent to fight the partisans around Tarnova in north eastern Italy.
                      He also recall another italian guy from Pola actually joined the SS along him.

                      Yes, I've read the thesis.

                      Quite a few italians joined the SS-Polizei-Gebirgsjaeger-Regiment 18 too.

                      Best Regards

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                        T.K. Thanks again. How did you like the thesis. I was thinking about having it translated if I could get it done reasonably.

                        Regards Dennis


                        Originally posted by T.K. View Post
                        Hello Dennis,

                        My comment wasn't meant to correct you, but just to add infos about the pictures you have posted.

                        Covallero was already a member of the 9° Reggimento Alpini at the date of 08.09.1943: following the italian armistice, he was actually deported to Germany were he was asked if he would have liked to join the SS: he agreed and was transferred to the SS-Polizei-Division fighting in the Balkans.
                        In 1944 he was moved to Pinerolo only God knows why, and there he deserted to the XMas: then he was sent to fight the partisans around Tarnova in north eastern Italy.
                        He also recall another italian guy from Pola actually joined the SS along him.

                        Yes, I've read the thesis.

                        Quite a few italians joined the SS-Polizei-Gebirgsjaeger-Regiment 18 too.

                        Best Regards

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                          Photos of SS-schutze Wainer Novellini . He is the deceased from the funeral photos.
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                            Second photo of Novellini
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                              Originally posted by kucek View Post
                              Hello!
                              Any one have picture SS Btl. Debica? I see here only one photo men from Btl Debica. Especially I looking photo made in Heidelager during training.
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                              kucek
                              Heidelager/Debica
                              I expect you are familiar with this site?
                              http://pustkow.republika.pl/historia.html

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                                I'm currently conducting some research into this subject of Italian SS volunteers and I'm particularly interested in the Officer with the film camera.

                                I spotted him again at the end of this clip.

                                Does anyone know who he is and if he was really part of a Propaganda unit or just interested in the camera?
                                Also, who is the Luftwaffe Generalmajor?

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqQ73FmDBM
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