Your earliest dated Ehrenpokal ??

[Brian S]

Some of these early dates do not line up with what most of us use as a source, the Horst Scheibert book.

[Brian S]

Thanks to Waterloo as I almost forget mine.
Here is my little contribution.

Proof that condition of "some" does not matter.

[Waffenreich]

Beautiful Hermann Pokal Chen, even if it is a little dinged and denazified.

Thanks Waterloo. Added Ofw Hahne to 6 Okt 40

01.06.1940 Heinrich Klein

05.07.1940 Oberleutnant Gerhart Schirmer

08.07.1940 Major Ludwig Schulz
08.07.1940 Major Walter Grabmann

12.08.1940 Major Franz Behrendt

21.08.1940 Hauptmann Johannes Schalk III./Zerstörergeschwader 26

26.08.1940 Oberleutnant Richard Kern 2.(F.)/Aufklärungsgruppe 123

27.08.1940 Oberleutnant Gerhard Schöpfel III./Jagdgeschwader 26

28.08.1940 Hauptmann Horst Liensberger V.(Zerstörer)/Lehrgeschwader 1

05.09.1940 Major Erich Mix III./Jagdgeschwader 2
05.09.1940 Leutnant Heinz Ebeling 8./Jagdgeschwader 26

08.09.1940 Oberleutnant Gustav Sprick 8./Jagdgeschwader 26

13.09.1940 Oberleutnant Werner Streib Zerstörergeschwader 1

26.09.1940 Hauptmann Theodor Rossiwall 6./Zerstörergeschwader 26

28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Günther Scholz III./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hans-Ekkehard Bob 9./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hans Philipp 4./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Karlheinz Metz 8./Jagdgeschwader 2
28.09.1940 Feldwebel Max Stotz 4./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hajo Herrmann 7./Kampfgeschwader 4
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Dietrich Hrabak II./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Robert Kowalewski Führungskette X Fliegerkorps
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Wilhelm Makroki I./Zerstörergeschwader 26
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Ralph von Rettberg II./Zerstörergeschwader 26
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Herbert Wittmann
28.09.1940 Feldwebel Gerhard Schilling
28.09.1940 Leutnant Ernst Guess

04.10.1940 Oberleutnant zur See Günther Grunwald

05.10.1940 Oberleutnant Helmut Bennemann 2./Jagdgeschwader 52
05.10.1940 Oberleutnant Karl-Heinz Leesmann 2./Jagdgeschwader 52

06.10.1940 Hauptmann Reinhold Gottschalk Kampfgeschwader 26
06.10.1940 Hauptmann Joachim Helbig Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Leutnant Otto Heinrich Stab II./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Richard Hahne 6./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Karl Mauch 6./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Feldwebel Herbert Isachsen 8./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Heinrich Kämper
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Ewald Sachs
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Albert Faller

11.10.1940 Hauptmann Albrecht Ochs

20.10.1940 Leutnant Erich Rudorffer 2./Jagdgeschwader 2
20.10.1940 Hauptmann Walter Storp II./Kampfgeschwader 76
20.10.1940 Oberleutnant Ludwig Franzisket 7./Jagdgeschwader 27
20.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Friedrich Fern

23.10.1940 Major Oskar Bauer

24.10.1940 Hauptmann Hans-Henning Freiherr von Beust III./ Kampfgeschwader 27

26.10.1940 Hauptmann Walter Adolph II./Jagdgeschwader 26
26.10.1940 Oberleutnant Wolfgang Redlich 1./Jagdgeschwader 27

04.11.1940 Feldwebel Hellmuth Krüger
04.11.1940 Unteroffizier Richard Döring
04.11.1940 Feldwebel Johannes Georgi

09.11.1940 Major Otto Weiss II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2

14.11.1940 Oberleutnant Franz Götz Jagdgeschwader 53

30.11.1940 Oberleutnant Alfred Druschel II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Unteroffizier Horst Schrammke
30.11.1940 Hauptmann Otto Hintze 3./Erprobungsgruppe 210
30.11.1940 Hauptmann Wilhelm Nöller II./Sturzkampfgeschwader 1
30.11.1940 Leutnant Heinz Frank II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Oberleutnant Josef Harmeling II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Leutnant Fritz Erhard Herrmann Stab/Erprobungsgruppe 210
30.11.1940 Wolfgang Schenk Erprobungsgruppe 210
04.12.1940 Oberleutnant Erich Woitke 6./Jagdgeschwader 3

14.12.1940 Oberleutnant Gustav-Siegfried Rödel 4./Jagdgeschwader 27
14.12.1940 Oberleutnant Eberhard Hennings I./Kampfgeschwader 4

16.12.1940 Oberleutnant Albert Biemer „53“ Kampfgeschwader 77

19.12.1940 Oberleutnant Franz Eckerle
19.12.1940 Oberleutnant Walter Schneider
19.12.1940 Olt Günter Skambraks 8./Sturzkampfstaffel 1

22.12.1940 Oberleutnant Wolfgang Schenck

24.12.1940 Oberleutnant Joachim Genzow

30.12.1940 Hauptmann Johannes Seifert

[waterloo]

10.10.1940 Leutnant Fritz Hasselbeck II./Kampfgeschwader 30
26.10.40 Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Haug I/KG54
30.11.40 Unteroffizier Josef Kehren, Bordfunker von "Bombo" Schenk
19.12.40 Oberleutnant Hans-Joachim Brans Küsten-Flieger-Gruppe 906

[Thomas H]

26.10.40 Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Haug I/KG54

Haug was I./KG53 and received his Goblet on the same day as his Beobachter Alfred Sticht.

Regards, Thomas

[marcinkappa]

Great knowledge guys

So Schalk was only the 6th recipient, not the first one as mentioned in almost every "popular science" website

[marcinkappa]

Who can fill the gap between that and 6 Okt 40?

I`ll try

[waterloo]

Dear collector friends,
my list is of course not perfect. I have collected the data over several years, unfortunately I have failed to document the respective source.
I am very grateful for every correction and improvement.
The list, also incorrectly shows clearly how rare and especially a 1940 Honor goblet is.
Let us work together on this wonderful topic.
Best regards
waterloo

[Dansson]

What a great thread!

[marcinkappa]

What a great thread!

Yes, indeed.

[marcinkappa]

Real Battle of Britain one.

[Brian S]

Dear collector friends,
my list is of course not perfect. I have collected the data over several years, unfortunately I have failed to document the respective source.
I am very grateful for every correction and improvement.
The list, also incorrectly shows clearly how rare and especially a 1940 Honor goblet is.
Let us work together on this wonderful topic.
Best regards
waterloo

Great job! It's frightening how many are missing in the reference books.

[e-maus]

What a great thread!

Yes, indeed.

Real Battle of Britain one.

My first answer to post in this topic, was removed by the moderator. His right. If I know the author of the post well, and you can believe me, I know. He is not interested in this subject, but the price that he can get for this Ehrenpokal. Stay tuned e-stand ;
Jacek

[Brian S]

My first answer to post in this topic, was removed by the moderator. His right. If I know the author of the post well, and you can believe me, I know. He is not interested in this subject, but the price that he can get for this Ehrenpokal. Stay tuned e-stand ;
Jacek

KIA 27 September, 1940, shot down by a Hurricane of RAF No. 17 Sq., piloted by F/O Leary. His gunner, Albert Kopge, was also KIA (Bf 110 Loss List). One known victory, his 1st, a Hawk-75A near Merzig, 30 September, 1939. His 2nd, a Spitfire W of Bournemouth on 15 August, 1940. His 3rd, a Spitfire at Warmwell on 26 August, 1940. Channel pilot. Alternate spelling: Liesberger (Bf 110 Loss List)



3 kills before he was himself shot down and killed. Interesting to see such an early goblet but dates don't calculate into the value as far I am concerned. It's all about the man who earned it and how he earned it and what he did to get there and after. Horst's career rather short.

[e-maus]

... It's all about the man who earned it and how he earned it and what he did to get there and after. Horst's career rather short.

Brian, you know I value you, but your opinion is the opinion of the person interested not only in the price, but also in the subject. And life is brutal
cheers;
Jacek
ps:
By the way. If I know life well your free knowledge will be a good asset in negotiating the price