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    #256
    Harry's green backed eagle. Wanted it here for reference. Great eagle Harry!
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      #257
      Hmmm, looks like a professional photographer took that photo!

      Great eagle Harry!
      Willi

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        #258
        John, I do observe a distinct feature on this style (based initially on the backing) of eagle that I don't see on other smock eagles.
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          #259
          Here is a variation of the Grünmeliert eagle I have only encountered (to date) on late water pattern smocks manufactured by Dietzel.

          What makes this variation different than the earlier splinter printed over GM is the unique thread pattern in darker colors. Also, I have never seen these with the "rain" pattern or green camo printed on them, only the brown camo pattern.

          Anyone else have some thoughts on these?
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            #260
            Close up.
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              #261
              Willi,
              A question: I have seen several Dietzel smocks and they all seemed to have their eagles stitched on in a very heavy fashion . Have you noticed this , or am I way off ?
              Are you sure the eagle above comes from a Dietzel smock ?

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                #262
                Originally posted by SMP View Post
                Willi,
                A question: I have seen several Dietzel smocks and they all seemed to have their eagles stitched on in a very heavy fashion . Have you noticed this , or am I way off ?
                Are you sure the eagle above comes from a Dietzel smock ?

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                Steve
                Steve, the eagle on my Dietzel is sewn loosely, just as the one Willi posted.
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                  #263
                  Originally posted by Willi Zahn View Post
                  John, I do observe a distinct feature on this style (based initially on the backing) of eagle that I don't see on other smock eagles.
                  Yes Willi, and the synthetic grey backed eagles are the same.
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                    #264
                    John, are those from the same kind of smocks as used in 1940.... ?
                    If not, how did the Breast Eagle on a jumpsmock as used in 1940 look like. If its has been already posted then please give me the URL of the photo...

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                      #265
                      Originally posted by Pietje View Post
                      John, are those from the same kind of smocks as used in 1940.... ?
                      If not, how did the Breast Eagle on a jumpsmock as used in 1940 look like. If its has been already posted then please give me the URL of the photo...
                      No Pietje, these eagles are from late war smocks, usually 44 dated. Please look at the eagles on page 13 of this thread to see several examples of early eagles. Here is one of them, a typical 40 eagle. Early eagles are backed on the GM fabric that this smock is made from.
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                        Originally posted by Willi Zahn View Post
                        What makes this variation different than the earlier splinter printed over GM is the unique thread pattern in darker colors. Also, I have never seen these with the "rain" pattern or green camo printed on them, only the brown camo pattern.

                        Anyone else have some thoughts on these?
                        Willi,
                        What if the darker colours are merely due to a weak over-print in green camo ? Look at a "splinter over olive" smock to see how the green splinter changes the colour of the individual threads of the GM material when viewed under magnification. Just a thought.

                        Regards,
                        Steve

                        P.S. John, thanks for the info !
                        Last edited by SMP; 04-30-2007, 04:52 PM.

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                          #267
                          Steve, it is a darker camo green. I could demonstrate this on several eagles.

                          I hope Gerard doesn't mind but here is one of the eagles on one of the superb ground division jackets he just acquired.
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                            #268
                            The other one.....
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                              #269
                              And, a few weeks ago another couple of jackets were discovered locally. Here is one of the eagles.
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                                #270
                                And, a FJ smock......
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