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robert souval ek2 . wartime or post war?
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Originally posted by streptile View PostBut that cross has a totally different core -- one which most of us have long agreed is a "wartime-only" core (the Schenkl 27 core). So I fail to see its relevance to the EK2 under discussion here (attached below).
I hate to be a contrarian, but I disagree. It is well-known that these characteristics can be found on postwar Souvals.
Do I understand correctly?
Do you think that just Souval's crosses EK2 with Schenkl's (27) core were war-time, and all remained were the post-war ? It's very interesting
Jarek
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Originally posted by boch_62 View PostHi Trevor,
Do I understand correctly?
Do you think that just Souval's crosses EK2 with Schenkl's (27) core were war-time, and all remained were the post-war ? It's very interesting
JarekBest regards,
Streptile
Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)
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Originally posted by streptile View Post... all others must be proven wartime or remain doubtful.
In my opinion, with such a large production of crosses in the war, Souval used to crosses EK2 both own core (with a deep 3), the Schenkl's core and also occasionally Orth's core... but, of course, beyond the examples of crosses, evidence for this I do not have and them anymore I will not ... so it's just IMO
Jarek
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Originally posted by nathan2552 View PostThank you all guys ! But i see different opinions on this case, it has not the maker 27 centre indeed, so is it just a mistery or am i sure it is post war or wartime?
Thanks
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Originally posted by fabri-online View Post...in my opinion this kind of cross is not wartime as the pin back first classes with same core.
... And what about the early Souval's cross EK1 presented in Stefan's database -
http://www.ek1-dna.de/rudolf-souval,-wien.php
in my opinion the frame and the core are virtually identical to that cross EK2 discussed by us ... but of course I just can confuse
JarekAttached Files
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Originally posted by fabri-online View PostHi Jarek
5tefan has created and managed his website following his thought.
so he has put the cross on top as an early Souval, in my opinion is absolutely uncorrect...Best regards,
Streptile
Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)
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to be clear, 5tefan has create his database following his thought but has created a great and beautiful work that at today no one can equalize, neither with a book because he can update it every day with a new variante. But in a so big work it's possible to see very very few crosses in a discutible place, just this.
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Hi Fabri and Trevor,
We do not understand a little
I do not say that Stefan is the oracle on matters of dispute whether the cross is the war-time or post-war ...
This was only one example (there are more) that some collectors consider this Souval's crosses for war-time. In my opinion, this is also a cross from the period of the war, but not necessarily early ...
You think that the cross is a post-war and o.k.
But both, me and you, do not have any evidence for this, it's just conjecture or deductions, and so, unfortunately, will be ...
Regards
Jarek
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Originally posted by boch_62 View PostBut both, me and you, do not have any evidence for this, it's just conjecture or deductions, and so, unfortunately, will be ...
Have you read this thread? There is a lot of evidence in there about postwar Souval manufacture.Best regards,
Streptile
Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)
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