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    #46
    the rear

    The rear of the badge.By the way, I am being asked for £38 for this badge?
    Thanks
    Andy
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      #47
      Happy New year to everyone.
      Andy, Shame some of the high points are polished out on this badge. It looks right with the sweat holes to the rear, but having never seen one for real I can't comment any further. If it's any consolation I saw one very recently on ebay with a missing loop and being sold with another badge for about £35 and a couple of dealers were after it too. Also Wilkinson's book (1997 Edition) prices it at £45.

      Good decision to pass on the 26th Hussars and until we get to the bottom of the Gaunt sliders, especially the B'Ham ones buying anything pre-1970's may be a risk.

      Keith

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        #48
        I have compared my Yorkshire Regiment to yours. Looks good.

        As keith has just pointed out this badge has been polished recently. I think the same alloys have been used but as you can see my example has more tarnish than yours which makes it harder to tell.

        £38 does actually sound that bad, I could get £20 for a badge with both lugs missing 10 years ago.

        This isnt a particulary rare badge. I would expect to always see a genuine example for sale at one of the major arms fairs.



        Steve.

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          #49
          More pics

          Thanks to you both for your comments. I think I will take this badge. There are still a few left and the next two are both for the Volunteers and both marked THOMAS FATORINI BOLTON.To be honest, the badges are alot nicer in person than in the pictures. The detail is excellent but there are a couple of things that concern me. Firsty, are your previous comments re Volunteer badges being all white metal.The East Lancs badge has a brass rose.Secondly,neither badge shows any decree of polishing? The seller is asking £40 each for these badges and your assistance would be very much appreciated.
          Thank you again
          Andy

          HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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            #50
            the rear

            the rear
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              #51
              Dli

              Next badge
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                #52
                and the back

                and the back
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                  #53
                  Andy,

                  I can understand your concerns with both these two badges. Polishing and the brass rose to the East Lancs are certainly valid points but once again without K & K I can only refer to Gaylor who doesn't show either of these badges but other VB's of each. In which case using these as an example the plinth on the East Lancs ought to be blank and his DLI example showes the VB crammed inside the horn and strings. I only have a restrike 1st East Lancs and it's no different from yours other than the branded slider which brings me onto my main concern.

                  If I'd been offered both of these badges seperately it probably wouldn't have come into the equation but I think its unusual to see such a difference in slider length from one manufacturer in such a relatively short period of time. In the photos they also look to be braized off centre which for what I believe to be a very high quality maker unacceptable. Is is braize attaching them or solder which looks greyish once weathered. Maybe this is just the photos though and or course there is also the question should these era badges have loops and not sliders?

                  I think these may be either incorrect restrikes with real sliders from over a longer period attached, the easy option-scrolls applied to regulars, a combination of both or worst of all falsifed brandings.

                  Keith

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                    #54
                    Give those a miss mate

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                      #55
                      thanks

                      Thanks Keith & Steve

                      I shall take your advise and pass on these two badges. I still have more to show and again your honest comments could save me lots of money. The first badge(Dorsetshire) is slightly out of shape which is not clear on the pictures and the Northamtonshire looks very polished on the scrolls.The third badge(Poplar) I would appreciate your comments on the fixings?What type of headgear were these made for.
                      Many thanks for all your help so far
                      Regards
                      Andy

                      PS prices quoted for these are as follows:
                      1:£22
                      2:£18
                      3:£32
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                        the rear

                        the rear
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                          #57
                          Northamptonshire

                          Northamptonshire
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                            #58
                            Northamptonshire rear

                            Northamptonshire rear
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                              #59
                              poplar

                              poplar
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                                poplar rear

                                poplar rear
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