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    #916
    Steve a very good question and I'm glad you posted this for other's thoughts. I too was in the mix and like Lee it ticked a lot of my boxes as well. There were a couple more pics of the exteria that didn't have the flash of the camra enhanceing the green, and infact it looked quite a dullish well worn repaint.

    But in the end I just couldn't justify to my self spending that much and not being 100% certain.

    I hope if a member here has bought it we will get to have a closer look.

    Greg

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      #917
      I thought the helmet itself was ok, but the name, well that's another story. To try to associate it with 'the Frost' is just ridiculous. Even if the name was 'soldier applied', these helmets were reissued right up to the early 1970s, so for the seller to imply that as it was dated 44, and there were only four Frosts in para in 44, and three were kia so it must be his is just mad.
      Lee

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        #918
        I really like the 44 dated helmet. The camouflage makes it interesting, but the name is just a name. It adds nothing to the helmet. I think someone bought a nice one.

        The fibre-rim was a very early helmet. I think the chinstrap was a slightly later one. Any more ideas about the green paint ?

        Regards,
        Steve

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          #919
          The RA flash looks realy good, also the paint must been there for a very, very long time. What realy concerned me is the stamp with the date. All the other things look very good from the pictures. The stamp was/is not very sharp, how to say it in good English. The edges are curved not pointy.
          All the stamping from AB helmets were very clear, even if they were faded.
          Its a very early fibre but the date is not how i like to see it.

          Jeroen

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            #920
            Camo Helmet

            Thanks, for your thought's on the helmet! I bought it because I wanted an example of a British Para helmet for my collection. Thanks Rob

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              #921
              Could you post a good picture from the stamping?

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                #922
                [QUOTE=SMP;3052400]I really like the 44 dated helmet. The camouflage makes it interesting, but the name is just a name. It adds nothing to the helmet. I think someone bought a nice one.

                Steve, I liked the 44 as well and I'm certain I have seen that same greenish paint that was camoed over it on US and US airborne helmets. The ware to the camo looked very consistant with the ware of the helmet.

                Greg

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                  #923
                  Originally posted by JEROEN1944 View Post
                  The RA flash looks realy good, also the paint must been there for a very, very long time. What realy concerned me is the stamp with the date. All the other things look very good from the pictures. The stamp was/is not very sharp, how to say it in good English. The edges are curved not pointy.
                  All the stamping from AB helmets were very clear, even if they were faded.
                  Its a very early fibre but the date is not how i like to see it.

                  Jeroen

                  Jeroen, I had the same thought about the stampings it almost looked like the leather had under gone some sort of age treetment making it quite dark and faint looking. Then again it could just be darkening due to ware/age hair cream etr ..seemed fairly consistant with age and ware of the exteria.

                  Greg

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                    #924
                    Originally posted by Greg B View Post
                    Jeroen, I had the same thought about the stampings it almost looked like the leather had under gone some sort of age treetment making it quite dark and faint looking. Then again it could just be darkening due to ware/age hair cream etr ..seemed fairly consistant with age and ware of the exteria.

                    Greg
                    I agree Greg, a better picture of it could tell us more.

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                      #925
                      [quote=Greg B;3052521]
                      Originally posted by SMP View Post
                      I really like the 44 dated helmet. The camouflage makes it interesting, but the name is just a name. It adds nothing to the helmet. I think someone bought a nice one.

                      Steve, I liked the 44 as well and I'm certain I have seen that same greenish paint that was camoed over it on US and US airborne helmets. The ware to the camo looked very consistant with the ware of the helmet.

                      Greg
                      Thats a good point, German helmets were also repainted in WW2, why not British ones. The point is, most of us like textbook examples.

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                        #926
                        Originally posted by Robert B M View Post
                        Thanks, for your thought's on the helmet! I bought it because I wanted an example of a British Para helmet for my collection. Thanks Rob

                        You bought the 44 dated one, Rob ? If so, many congratulations

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                          #927
                          Originally posted by Greg B View Post
                          .........it almost looked like the leather had under gone some sort of age treetment making it quite dark and faint looking. Then again it could just be darkening due to ware/age hair cream etr ..seemed fairly consistant with age and ware of the exteria.

                          Greg
                          Greg/Jeroen
                          At first I thought the same but I then thought that the age and wear looked fairly consistant over the whole helmet, the leather could be darker because it had been 'lived in' a little more, maybe by a brylcreem fan. I have seen similar darkening on leather sweatbands in peaked(visor) caps, one I have is very greasy. Also we need to take into account where the helmet might have been stored since it left the service. More often than not things like this are consigned to the shed or garage, not the best environment for long term storage. Overall I thought the + far outweighed the one or two queries I had.
                          Lee

                          ps. well done on the 44 Rob
                          Last edited by Old Smelly; 01-24-2009, 04:25 AM. Reason: forgot line

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                            #928
                            I

                            I think Jack had been on the "Falling over liquid" and was having a jest ...

                            ..Infact I have asked the question before, if anybody knows of a snap of Frost taken at Arnhem wearing his para helmet ?
                            At Bruneval he was wearing his P type lid ... and I would like to know if he wore it at Arnhem ??

                            Gary J.


                            Originally posted by Old Smelly View Post
                            I thought the helmet itself was ok, but the name, well that's another story. To try to associate it with 'the Frost' is just ridiculous. Even if the name was 'soldier applied', these helmets were reissued right up to the early 1970s, so for the seller to imply that as it was dated 44, and there were only four Frosts in para in 44, and three were kia so it must be his is just mad.
                            Lee

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                              #929
                              I dont talk about the dirt/blackening whats going into the stamping, but about the shape from the stamping. Maybe its the photo, but the stamping looks different in shape. So i`m just curious about a good frontal clear picture.

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                                #930
                                The stamp looks good to me ,faded but good.The repaint also looks period,as does the RA sign.Only thing that bothers me a bit are the chinstraps.As I would have suspected the first version of chinstraps to be on this one.But the second version is not impossible so...What I find strange about them is the way they are stiched,I miss the threads going over the leather to the other side.{hope this picture explains}



                                This is a second variation chinstrap,note the threads going over the leather to the other side on the top and bottem.All stiched chinstraps I have seen look like this.

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