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    #496
    Originally posted by kammo man View Post
    Where is Scott Hess when you need him !

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      #497
      Originally posted by glaser View Post
      For those who are prepared to look at more realistic 2WW movies, try this one, the german Band of Brother version: our mothers, our fathers

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFQJLy0_cg
      to look at more realistic 2WW movies !!!???? Come on

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        #498
        Originally posted by PANZER332 View Post
        to look at more realistic 2WW movies !!!???? Come on
        Yeah I thought that myself !!!

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          #499
          Originally posted by glaser View Post
          For those who are prepared to look at more realistic 2WW movies, try this one, the german Band of Brother version: our mothers, our fathers

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFQJLy0_cg
          Our fathers, our mothers was not a German band of brothers, because it did not focus on combat or on a group of soldiers. Meanwhile, BOB glorified it's vets, while Unser mutter certainly did not glorify their vets. In fact they painted to partisans and Russians in a much better light than they actually were.
          And it was full of politically correctness, so it can hardly be considered an accurate portrayal of historical facts. This is the danger these movies pose on the minds of younger generation Germans and others. They are brain washed and therefore cannot be reconciled with past events.
          I do not mean that Fury glorifies the war, but it certainly does not demonize US vets. There is no self flagellation.

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            #500
            All these comments about the reality of movies about WW2 and the perception of what is real is really bugging me. Very few people alive totady has any concept , even a remote concept of the reality of WW2. This applies to the reality across the globe. The reality of people living in the US where vastly different from the reality of American soldiers in combat. Same appliest to the reality of Germans in Germany and in combat and the experience all other nations.

            The point being, modern society cannot handle the reality of the war years 39-45 and some. So portraying that reality accurately as entertainment in 2014 would just be foolish and keep in mind movies are entertainment (good or bad), but war is everything but that.

            So all us armchair critics commenting about what the reality of ww2 is, should maybe rethink. We have no clue. Only when you were there have you earned the right to comment about the reality of that war. IMO. J

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              #501
              Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter - Generation war

              Originally posted by PANZER332 View Post
              to look at more realistic 2WW movies !!!???? Come on
              With "more realistic" I ment that you will not see something like a tank surviving several short range Panzerfaust attacks here. I hope you have seen the full movie and I am open to criticism and comments, but at least put some content in your answer so that we know why you liked or disliked it, which still remains a personal opinion to be respected by all people (living in a democracy. So I enjoyed this movie, first place in my top 10 of best war movies ever.
              An overview of the weaponry used:
              http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Our_Mothers,_Our_Fathers
              Here you read how the movie was commented in different continents/countries
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_War
              Last edited by glaser; 11-02-2014, 05:40 AM. Reason: type error

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                #502
                lest we forget

                Lest we forget , the bottom line of any movie is entertainment, PERIOD!!
                I enjoyed it and it entertained both my wife and me- enuff said

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                  #503
                  Not seen it yet, hopefully next weekend, just not had time

                  I will be going with an open mind, after reading all the reviews on here, I will not be too critical, I am not expecting too much, only really want to see the tank action, especially 131

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                    #504
                    "FURY" [upcoming WW2 tank warfare film]

                    Originally posted by Totenhead View Post
                    Not seen it yet, hopefully next weekend, just not had time

                    I will be going with an open mind, after reading all the reviews on here, I will not be too critical, I am not expecting too much, only really want to see the tank action, especially 131
                    Here is the ' realistic' tank action,,,imagine Shermans/Tigers with a top speed of 3.5 mph, maneuvering across open fields almost track to track, that can evidently only turn with a huge effort and can only engage at point blank ranges with little effect.
                    To address the overall 'reality', the movie would have done OK if they had not made the final last stand scene last hours and make the SS appear to be buffoons with no training or efficient anti weapons or tactics and that could only do frontal assaults on the immobilized tank. Yay. Snipers at 50 meters...Yay ! Lets wait until the enemy is totally surrounding us before we attack, Yay ! Why , it would be stupid to open up on them enfilade as they marched down the road right at you. Right? That was so unreal and turned it into a fantasy , Hollywood cliche drivel that was barely watchable for the last 10 minutes or so. If you just are just starved to see anything WWII then it is worth going to, that is why I went to see it and it was a one hour drive one way for me to get to any theater! And finally, producers...stop trying to save a buck by hiring reenactors, unless 80% of them are in their late teens and early twenties and no one over 175 lbs or so! If none of that bothers you , then it is an entertaining film.

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                      #505
                      Saw it tonight - wish I hadn't ! What a missed opportunity.

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                        #506
                        I've seen it yesterday and I really liked it.

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                          #507
                          Originally posted by napesica View Post
                          Here is the ' realistic' tank action,,,imagine Shermans/Tigers with a top speed of 3.5 mph, maneuvering across open fields almost track to track, that can evidently only turn with a huge effort and can only engage at point blank ranges with little effect.
                          To address the overall 'reality', the movie would have done OK if they had not made the final last stand scene last hours and make the SS appear to be buffoons with no training or efficient anti weapons or tactics and that could only do frontal assaults on the immobilized tank. Yay. Snipers at 50 meters...Yay ! Lets wait until the enemy is totally surrounding us before we attack, Yay ! Why , it would be stupid to open up on them enfilade as they marched down the road right at you. Right? That was so unreal and turned it into a fantasy , Hollywood cliche drivel that was barely watchable for the last 10 minutes or so. If you just are just starved to see anything WWII then it is worth going to, that is why I went to see it and it was a one hour drive one way for me to get to any theater! And finally, producers...stop trying to save a buck by hiring reenactors, unless 80% of them are in their late teens and early twenties and no one over 175 lbs or so! If none of that bothers you , then it is an entertaining film.

                          Apart from that, what's so bad about it ???

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                            #508
                            Originally posted by napesica View Post
                            Here is the ' realistic' tank action,,,imagine Shermans/Tigers with a top speed of 3.5 mph, maneuvering across open fields almost track to track, that can evidently only turn with a huge effort and can only engage at point blank ranges with little effect.
                            To address the overall 'reality', the movie would have done OK if they had not made the final last stand scene last hours and make the SS appear to be buffoons with no training or efficient anti weapons or tactics and that could only do frontal assaults on the immobilized tank. Yay. Snipers at 50 meters...Yay ! Lets wait until the enemy is totally surrounding us before we attack, Yay ! Why , it would be stupid to open up on them enfilade as they marched down the road right at you. Right? That was so unreal and turned it into a fantasy , Hollywood cliche drivel that was barely watchable for the last 10 minutes or so. If you just are just starved to see anything WWII then it is worth going to, that is why I went to see it and it was a one hour drive one way for me to get to any theater! And finally, producers...stop trying to save a buck by hiring reenactors, unless 80% of them are in their late teens and early twenties and no one over 175 lbs or so! If none of that bothers you , then it is an entertaining film.

                            Seriously though, your comments " Here is the ' realistic' tank action,,,imagine Shermans/Tigers with a top speed of 3.5 mph, maneuvering across open fields almost track to track, that can evidently only turn with a huge effort and can only engage at point blank ranges with little effect. "

                            I have seen the trailers and that's one thing that crossed my mind, the clips showed the Tiger and the Sherman firing at each other at point blank range and nothing happening ??? whats all that about ?? is that how it really is in the movie ????

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                              #509
                              Finally saw it. The film had some very good points, but I did not know before seeing it that the Germans had such terrible aim.

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                                #510
                                That's why they lost the war.

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