Thank you Helmut, the weave of the rayon piping looks correct, though I have never seen that much wear. I am convinced that the straps themselves are original, as for the embroidery, I am not sure. This are the only embroidery that I am certain appeared on tropical straps:
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I like helmut's straps and I'm not being a wishful (gullible) collector.
As for embroidery on tropical straps, I have also seen regiment numbers embroidered but this is an absolute exception and very rare. Photos of a set from PzRegt5 have already been shown on this forum.
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With the exception of the Wachtbataillon Afrika straps, I don't believe any numerals or cyphers were authorized, however individuals adorning their straps is possible and these (the "M"s) are compelling.Originally posted by MarkG View PostComment
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While I agree that there are original tropical straps from PR5 with a "5" on them and I know for a fact that some were brought back from Africa by New Zealand soldiers.Originally posted by MarkG View Post
I also have seen straps that Peter Hassinger has taken apart, embroidered a "5" and then reassembled. In some cases he had straps made up for the purpose in others he used originals.
When it comes to numbers and letters on tropical straps, it is case of let the buyer beware,
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Chris,Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
I'm well aware of that but, as you have also indicated, originals did and do exist.
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Hi all,
I am in the Mark G camp, the more I look at these straps the more I like them.
If only they could speak they would put all this uncertainty to rest..
Helmut, you enjoying this beautiful set ..
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Yes i agree Mark, however the problem with these is that is not a know period type of stitch, No one has seen that type of stitch but it does seem very close to what Peter Hassinger produces.Originally posted by MarkG View Post
I have several examples of Peter Hassinger's work here on file. I have asked for a good close up, face on images so we can check the type of stitch and the amount of wear on the "M" itself.
Such an image has not been forthcoming.
Have a look at the type of stitch on the "W" on OSS's straps in post number 3946, that is a war time "chain stitch". The stitch on the "M" is anyone guess as to who did it and when it was done.
In the absence of any more evidence, what else can one say,
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Just would like to echo a couple of points to this interesting discussion. Have seen an original early EM 1st pattern DAK Pz tunic with the #5 embroidered on the straps in rosa, also a vet bring back.
The #5 on "Hassinger's" imitations has really improved from earlier attempts. These are on European straps/slips . Have not seen any of his tropical imitations yet with the #5 ? But have seen other tunics with the #5 cypher added post war. He likes to add tresse too.
Chris have you seen any tropical straps "created" by "Hassinger" ? Agree a good photo straight on of the "M" would be good to compare with the "Hassinger" examples.
The straps that OSS has posted are just outstanding....
and Thank You Helmut for the additional photos, i too would hold onto them
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Australian captured single sided marker flag - Christmas day Gambut Airfield 1941Comment
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A very interesting flag Mike. I've just spent about 15 minutes looking up as many service numbers as possible as finding out more about these men is fascinating. Many Queenslanders and a couple from 2/15th Infantry Battalion.
A very similar flag but without the signatures was donated to the Australian War Memorial not long ago. It was purported to be the flag used to drape over the body of Gustav Ponath and was with the family of an officer from 2/15th battalion for many years.
Thank you for showing us again.
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Hi Mike
Love the flag, exactly how I love to find them. A complete and total combat souveneer.
I remember a battle flag on display in a surplus shop about 25 years ago covered in Kiwi signatures. I tried desperately to buy it from the shop owner but with no luck. Sadly, the shop was broken into several months later and the flag along with several other choice items were stolen and lost forever.
Cheers
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